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to je njihova varijanta ah-j cobra yovu ga toophan zbog toga sto je naoruzan protiv oklopom koje oni nazivaju tophan1 i 2. mig 23 imaju ex iracke neki govore 8 neki 12,a spominju se i nove isporuke iz rusije u glavnom oni su bili exp.verzije prilagodjeni za kombinovane lovacko-bombarderske zadatke a oni su sve svoje avione modifikovali da moze nositi domace oruzije plus tankanje u zraku pa tako recimo f14 nose mim-hawk rakete,takodje postoje slike cobri naoruzane i maverick projektilima koje takodje posjeduju.Tako govoriti o standardnim varijantama tipa mk,bm,smt..itd je malo upitno.

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Na onom gornjem linku na 0:15 F-4 ispaljuje nešto što liči na Hawk raketu.

Nego pitanje je da li Iranci stvarno od nule prave one dvorepe F-5 ili modifikuju postojeće. Ako prave potpuno nove letelice onda je to veliki uspeh.

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Do sada nisam nikada video Iranski MiG-23... Ima li ko neku sliku?

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Iran napavio originalni PVO sistem,koji je po njihovim recima bolji od S300.

http://rt.com/news/iran-air-defense-system-015/

Citat:An Iranian general says the Islamic Republic has built an ingenious air defense system which surpasses the Russian S-300. Moscow intended to provide S-300s to Teheran, but canceled the sale due to UN sanctions against Iran.

"The flaws and defects of the S-300 system have been corrected in the indigenous version of the system and its conceptual designing has been finished,” Fars news agency quoted Brigadier General Farzad Esmaili as saying on Tuesday.

The commander of the Khatam al-Anbiya Air Defense Base said the surface-to-air missile system is dubbed Bavar-373 and uses two or three different types of missiles to attack aerial targets, depending on their altitude.

Iran has been developing a long-range air defense system for several years and first tested it last year. Some military experts speculated that the technology may have been borrowed from China. China was one of the several legitimate buyers of the Russian system.

The S-300 was developed in the Soviet Union in the late 1970s and has a range of up to 150 kilometers. It can hit aircraft, cruise missiles and even ballistic missiles, and track up to 24 targets simultaneously.

The system was supplied to a number of other nations. A deal with Iran was reportedly signed in 2007, but was never finalized. The contract, which would have allowed Iran protect its crucial nuclear facilities from a possible air strike, was vocally objected to by Israel and its allies.

The sale was canceled in June 2010 due to a set of sanctions imposed against Teheran by the UN Security Council. The international security body mounted pressure to force Iran to make its nuclear and ballistic missile programs more transparent.

The Russian army is currently replacing the old air defense system with the newest S-400, which has improved specifications. The next-generation hardware has not been sold to any other countries yet, although a possible deal with Saudi Arabia has been reported.

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Napisano: 21 Sep 2011 23:05

to je najmanje bitno ,ono sto je vazno da nepisem o stvarima koje nigdje nisu potvrdjene ,dakle njima su sankcije zapada onemogucile nabavku municije ,a kao sto znamo dosta oruzija je kupljeno od zapadnih zemajla tako da je realno jedino moguce da sami proizvode,normalno nisu se rodili sa svom pameti svijeta, pa poznato je da su tehnologiju kupovali vani ali je cinjenica da su na dobrom putu, pod uslovom da rata nebude,moze se ocekivati za 5-10g budu reg. velesila.

Dopuna: 21 Sep 2011 23:16

vidis mi svi samo zapeli za s300 pa vidite pisao sam maloprije o libiji i sistemu s200 ,znaci iranci pametno rade ,idu po redu jer taj sistem bez tor-m1/2 , buk-m1/2,pancir, cjevne pvo ne ide , jednostavno pvo mora biti kompletan od malih/srednjih/dalekih sistema , taj sistem je eqval s300 pt/v kojeg iranci vec posjeduju par sistema ali treba se zna da je porediti s300 pt/v i s300pmu2 isto kao porediti mig 21 i 29 jer s300v ima domet oko 80 -90km a s300pmu1/2 150 km plus razlika u broju meta koje moze pratiti/gadjati od jednom i narucito procenat efikasnosti.

Dopuna: 21 Sep 2011 23:25

Ameri su u doba saha sklapali avione i helikoptere u iranu pa kad su se ovi povukli ostalo je nesto kapaciteta,poslije su rusi i kinezi jos pomogli ,taj avion je potpuno nov i domaci ali su imali kapacitet praviti samo desetak godisnje.Inace pokrenuli su dva nova projekta sa rusima i kinezima rusi im isporucuju motore za njih pa cemo vidjeti sta ce biti,parlament je zabranio kupnju aviona i nalozio da domaca industrija proizvede avione za vojsku zbog iskustva sa americkim avionima i embarga na rez. djelove.Oni smatraju da sve potrebe za vjsku mogu sami podmiriti samo je parlament odobrio kupnju pvo sistema s300.

Dopuna: 21 Sep 2011 23:52

tek sad vidjeh pa da pojasnim to da imaju petrokemijsku industriju ne izmisljam ja iz svoje glave inace bez nje nebi mogli ni postizati rezultate u raketnom programu a ni kvalitetnu municiju ne bi imali,dakle te podatke svi na planeti usvim vojnim,znanstvenim i dr. krugovima smatraju cinjenicom pa je i ja tako prenosim . Inace forumi i sluze da bi ljudi dolazili do razlicitih informacija iz razlicitih izvora,za sve sto je napisano postoje dokazi i ja sam se potrudio da vecinom informacije budu potvrdjene u zapadnim izvorima.Drugo iran posjeduje naprednu hemijsko -biolosku industriju pa je poznato da oni preko 95% ljekova podmiruju iz domace proizvodnje a jedan su od vecih izvoznika.Iran ratified the Biological weapons Convention in 1973.[32] Iran has advanced biological and genetic engineering research programs supporting an industry that produces vaccines for both domestic use and export.[33].After the Islamic revolution, Iran found itself severely isolated and lacking technological expertise. Because of economic sanctions and a weapons embargo put on Iran by the United States, Iran was forced to rely on its domestic arms industry for weapons and spare parts since there were very few countries willing to do business with Iran.[25]

The Islamic Revolutionary Guards were put in charge of creating what is today known as the Iranian military industry. Under their command Iran's military industry was enormously expanded, and with the Ministry of Defense pouring investment into the missile industry, Iran soon accumulated a vast arsenal of missiles.[21] Since 1992, it also has produced its own tanks, armored personnel carriers, radar systems, guided missiles, submarines, military vessels and fighter planes.[26][27]

In recent years, official announcements have highlighted the development of weapons such as the Fajr-3 (MIRV), Hoot, Kowsar, Fateh-110, Shahab-3 missile systems and a variety of unmanned aerial vehicles, at least one of which Israel claims has been used to spy on its territory.[28] In 2006, an Iranian UAV acquired and allegedly tracked the American aircraft carrier USS Ronald Reagan for 25 minutes without being detected before returning safely to its base.[

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Specifications
Schematic drawing of the Kilo class.

There are several variants of the Kilo class. The information below is the smallest and largest number from the available information for all three variants of the ship.[23]

Displacement:
2,300-2,350 tons surfaced
3,000-4,000 tons submerged
Dimensions:
Length: 70–74 meters
Beam: 9.9 meters
Draft: 6.2-6.5 meters
Maximum speed
10-12 knots surfaced
17-25 knots submerged
Propulsion: Diesel-electric 5,900 shp (4,400 kW)
Maximum depth: 300 meters (240–250 meters operational)
Endurance
400 nautical miles (700 km) at 3 knots (6 km/h) submerged
6,000 nautical miles (11,000 km) at 7 knots (13 km/h) snorkeling (7,500 miles for the Improved Kilo class)
45 days sea endurance
Armament
Air defence: 8 SA-N-8 Gremlin or SA-N-10 Gimlet[24] Surface-to-air missiles (export submarines may not be equipped with air defense weapons)
Six 533 mm torpedo tubes with 18 53-65 ASuW or TEST 71/76 ASW torpedoes or VA-111 Shkval supercavitating "underwater missiles", or 24 DM-1 mines,
Crew: 52
Price per unit is US$200–250 million (China paid approx. US$1.5-2 billion for 8 Project 636 Kilo class submarines)

Dopuna: 22 Sep 2011 0:05

i da se zna ja ovdje iznosim podatke o njihovoj vojsci iz razloga sto malo ljudi poznaje situaciju,a o usa i idf vecinom se sve zna ,tako da nemisli niko daje neko navijanje ili dizanje u nebo,svi smo mi svjesni snage usa i izraela ali eto sve ovo moze pomoci da ljudi razumiju bolje situaciju.

Dopuna: 22 Sep 2011 0:15

ta puska za koju neko rece da je m-16 je ustvari iranska domaca kopija koja ima naziv s5.56 i kompaktibilan je okvir od m16 a bilup verzija isto ima okvir od m16 a oznaka je kh-2002

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nelsa ::to je njihova varijanta ah-j cobra yovu ga toophan zbog toga sto je naoruzan protiv oklopom....

Nelsa, objasni nam malo bolje kakav je to PROTIV OKLOPNI materijal na helikopteru?

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Besotted ::nelsa ::to je njihova varijanta ah-j cobra yovu ga toophan zbog toga sto je naoruzan protiv oklopom....

Nelsa, objasni nam malo bolje kakav je to PROTIV OKLOPNI materijal na helikopteru?

Mozda se on malo nezgrapno izjasnoi ali Toophan je iranska verzija americke TOW rakete koji su Iranci sami razvili od primera kojih su nasledili od saha Pahlavija (kao uostalom mnogo njihovog oruzja).

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Napisano: 22 Sep 2011 9:12

Toophan 2 is an upgraded version of Iran's Toophan missile, which itself is a copy of the American BGM-71 TOW armor piercing, anti-tank missile

Dopuna: 22 Sep 2011 9:19

Raad - copy of Soviet AT-3 Sagger [43]
RPG-7 - Copy of Soviet RPG-7. Iran is forecast to manufacture 2.88 percent of the worlds RPG-7's by 2014.[44] Saegheh - improved version of the RPG-7 [45] Toophan - Copy of American TOW missile missile

Dopuna: 22 Sep 2011 9:20

Toophan 2 - Improved Toophan
Toophan 5 - Anti-armor, anti-tank missile with two warheads[46][47]
Towsan - Iranian version of the 9M113 Konkurs/AT-5 Spandrel

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by wikipedia

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Defense production

Air Force equipment


Fighters and attack aircraft

Azarakhsh strike fighter
Owaz interceptor fighter
Shafaq one-seat fighter, dual-seat attacker, and dual-seat combat capable trainer
Sa'eqeh fighter


Helicopter

Panha 2091, a reverse engineered and upgraded AH-1 Cobra
Shabaviz 2061, a reverse-engineered and upgraded Bell 206
Shabaviz 275, a reverse-engineered and upgraded Bell 214C
Shahed 5
Shahed 274
Shahed 278
AB-206 reverse engineered and upgraded with Toophan ATGMs


Training aircraft

Tazarve
Fajr-3
Parasto
Dorna


Upgrade and repair

Upgrades and reserve components for F-4
Upgrades and reserve components for F-5
Upgrades and reserve components for F-14


Missiles

Long range

IRIS, part of Iran's space program.
Shahab-4; program shelved.


Intermediate range

Ghadr-110 two-stage solid-propellant strategic IRBM with a range of 3,000 km


Medium range

Fajr-3 triple-warhead strategic MRBM with a range of 3,000 km. Iran's most advanced missile.
Shahab-3 strategic MRBM with a range of 2,100 km. Initially based on Nodong-1.[11][12]
Shahab-2 tactical SRBM with a range of 750 km. Based on SS-1d/Scud-C.
Shahab-1 tactical SRBM with a range of 350 km. Based on SS-1c/Scud-B.


Short range

Fateh-110 single-stage solid-propellant SRBM with a range of 200 km.
Zelzal-3
Zelzal-2 single-stage solid-propellant SRBM with a range of 200 km.[13][14][15]
Zelzal-1
Fajr-3 artillery rocket
Fajr-5 artillery rocket
Oghab artillery rocket


Man-Portable Air-Defence System (MANPAD)

Misagh-2
Misagh-1
Sayyad-1, conflicting reports: potentially a Chinese SA-2 variant.
Saeqeh
Shahab Thaqeb
Rapier, reverse-engineered and upgraded
Crotale, reverse-engineered and upgraded


Anti-tank missiles

Toophan
Toophan 2
AT-3 Sagger / Ra'ad
AT-4 Spigot
AT-5 Spandrel
AT-14 Kornet
RPG-29
RPG-7
Metis-M
Kornet-E
MILAN
Saghegh improved version of the manportable RPG-7.
Dragon


Anti-ship cruise missile

Kowsar
Fajre-Darya television-guided missile
Nasr
Noor


Anti-aircraft missile

Hawk missile, reverse-engineered and converted to be carried by aircraft
Ghareh, a reverse-engineered and upgraded S-200


Naval

Hoot. Conflicting reports: potentially a Russian VA-111 Shkval variant.


Cruise missile

Xh-55


Other

Qadr television-guided
Zoobin television-guided
Anti-radiation missiles
Laser guided missiles
Spare parts for aircraft


Army equipment

Tanks

Tosan MBT
Zulfiqar MBT
T-72Z/Safir-74
Shir-1, a reverse-engineered and upgraded Chieftain tank


Armoured personnel carrier

Cobra BMT-2
Boragh, upgraded Russian BMP-2 variant.
Sayyad
BTR-60, upgraded


Artillery

Raad 1
Raad 2


Unmanned aerial vehicles

Ababil
Mohajer I/II/III/IV
Sahand
Faraz I
Faraz II
Saeqeh
Sabokbal


Small arms and other

Heckler & Koch G3 7.62 mm (model G3A6 licence production) [16]
Heckler & Koch MG3 7.62 mm (licence production) [17]
Tondar Sub-Machine Gun 9mm (MP5 manufactured under licence)
AKM
PKM
Dragunov Sniper Rifle
5.56mm rifle copied from U.S. M-16
Khaybar KH2002 (an Iranian designed 5.56mm bullpup rifle that is intended to eventually replace the G3A6; More info)
RPG-7. Iran makes and exports more RPG-7s than any other country. [18]
Zoaf Pistol 9 mm
Sig P-226 Pistol
Gas masks
Bullet Proof Vests


Naval equipment


Destroyers

Mowj


Frigates

Sina-1


Submarines

Ghadir
Sabehat-15


Patrol craft

Ashura
Paykan
Tareq
Zulfaqar
MIG-S-1800
MIG-S-1900
MIG-S-2600
MIG-S-3700 LCU


Electronics

FCS, for T-72 MBTs
Radio transceivers; copy of U.S. models
Training simulators for aircraft and tanks
Hasib radar
Basir-110 AD radar
HMS-100/200/400/500 electro-optical surveillance systems
Imaging camera for satellites
Laser detector
Night vision systems

ovo je sa iranskog foruma,trebe znati da nije bas sve u serijskoj proizvodnji,ili se bar nezna je li,uglavnom napredak je vidljiv,80 tih godina sve sto je bilo od opreme je kupljeno iz vana nisu mogli ni puske proizvesti u svoji tvornicama.Dosta ih je izvuklo sto su ameri povlacenje izvrsili u panici i nisu uspjeli znacajno onesposobiti kapacitete,pa su ovi vec u ratu sa sadamom koristili vecinu zapadnih aviona i helikoptera.Uglavnom po svemu sudeci pririoritet im je f4/5/14 narocito f14 u dobrom stanju jer ih imaju poprilican broj pa tako mogu eventualno nadoknaditi teh.zaostatak za IDF-om,a s amerima sve jedno nece moci odbraniti nebo,eventualno uz dobar pvo sacuvati nesto od prvog vala,ali opet reci koja je njihova taktika je vrlo tesko.

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nelsa ::Dosta ih je izvuklo sto su ameri povlacenje izvrsili u panici i nisu uspjeli znacajno onesposobiti kapacitete,pa su ovi vec u ratu sa sadamom koristili vecinu zapadnih aviona i helikoptera.Uglavnom po svemu sudeci pririoritet im je f4/5/14 narocito f14

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Napisano: 22 Sep 2011 9:58

irnski domaci razarac ,mada je manji od zapadni , ali njima veci i ne odgovara zbog karakteristika zaliva ,uglavnom naziv mu je> jamaran> ,a postoji jos jedan identican naziv mu je> valajat>.Inace oni vise pridaju znacaja malim plovnim jedinicama naoruzanih torpedima i protiv brodskim raketama,a i to je razumljivo jer bi velike plovne platvorme zbog teh.nadmoci> us navy>vec u prvom danu bile potopljene.Ovako manji i brzi torpedni camci zbog velicine i brzine bi imali sansu nanjeti stetu.Druga stvar koja je pametno uradjena je sto je kompletan zaliv i djelovi indijskog oceana u dometu protiv brodskih raketa,nedavno su po prvi put izvrseni testovi gdje su rakete ispaljene izvan irana,a pogodicete rakete su ispaljene u indijski ocean.

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