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Inače, Amerikanci su već objavili da će za sada suspendirati letove bilo kakvih letjelica iznad Crnog mora.
Americi su ispravno protumačili rusku poruku.
Uvjeren sam da do kraja ovog rata neće više biti US letova bar 150 km od obala Krima.
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Registruj se da bi učestvovao u diskusiji. Registrovanim korisnicima se NE prikazuju reklame unutar poruka.
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Poslao: 16 Mar 2023 13:42
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Како сад то, јуче су рекли да ће наставити са летовима гдје год међународно право допушта?
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Poslao: 16 Mar 2023 13:52
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Па не исплати им се да лете. Руси могу сваки да оборе без проблема.
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Poslao: 16 Mar 2023 13:54
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@fantom
rekli pa porekli 😁
Naravno da se ne mogu povući na tako ponižavajući način, izjave za novine tj. priča za narod ostaje junačka, ali oni znaju da Rusi tu nemaju izbora.
Vojska je letove "privremeno" suspendirala, a političari dalje guraju tu priču.
Mislim da će to privremeno potrajati do kraja rata.
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Poslao: 16 Mar 2023 14:02
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Napisano: 16 Mar 2023 13:59
danijell ::Nema više... Ursula se izletjela, zbunila...
Citat: And upwards of 100,000 Ukrainian forces have died in the year-long war, U.S. officials estimate, including the most experienced soldiers.
Many of these losses are taking place in Bakhmut, where both sides are suffering massive casualties.
https://www.politico.com/news/2023/03/15/dod-ukraine-war-supplies-00087291
Sada da primjenimo Ukrajinsku propagandnu formulu, ako je poginulo 100 000 to znaci minimalno 3 puta vise ranjenih/izbacenih iz stroja - dakle sad samo napraviti jednu grafiku sa cool slikicama i za osoblje napisati 400 000 ukrajinaca eliminisano
Dopuna: 16 Mar 2023 14:02
@Frunze
Evo sve sto je kvalitetno kod Ukrajinaca je vezano na Bahmut/Artemovsk, ja mislim da recimo sada 300 hiljada Rusa u napadu na pravcu Kharkova bi uzrokovalo kolaps kompletne Ukrajinske odbrane.Samo nemoj da pogresno me razumijes - ne kazem da treba 300 hiljada svjeze moblisanih u napad poslati nego rasporediti i osloboditi 300 000 kvalitetnijih.
Naravno pitanje je jel ima se logistickih i drugih kapaciteta da se tako nesto uradi..
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Poslao: 16 Mar 2023 14:29
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Slonic, jel imas link objave suspendovanja U.S letova nad Crnim morem?
Od Utorka petnaest puta ponavljaju da ce da nastave sa letovima.
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Poslao: 16 Mar 2023 14:56
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@Milos1977
pogledat ću navečer. pogledao sam dosta videa i pročitao dosta članaka o ovom događaju u toku zadnja 24 sata, pa mi se teško sjetiti gdje sam to vidio, mislim da je govorio o tome jedan od onih bivših CIA službenika kod suca Napolitana.
inače, znam da su izjave za javnost da će se nastaviti letovi neometano, ali ja više njemu vjerujem, oni jednostavno ne mogu povodom toga reći ništa drugačije, jer bi to bilo priznanje da je Rusija nekakav faktor, a oni to u svojoj javnosti potpuno negiraju.
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Poslao: 16 Mar 2023 15:08
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Ovo mi se činilo zanimljivo a nisam našao odgovarajuću temu pa stavljam tu. Ukrajinci sami priznaju da puno toga ne mogu srušiti
Citat:🇷🇺🚀🇺🇦The Armed Forces of Ukraine stated that they could not shoot down ballistic missiles
As noted by the speaker of the command of the Air Forces of the Armed Forces of Ukraine Yuri Ignat, the "narrow-profile" aviation anti-radar missiles X-31P and similar air-to-ground missiles of shorter range also do not go down
The Armed Forces of Ukraine (AFU), in addition to the Russian hypersonic Kinzhal and X-22 missiles, cannot shoot down ballistic missiles, in particular, the Iskander-M tactical missile system, as well as guided missiles from the S-300 anti-aircraft missile system and even Smerch rocket launchers. This was told by the speaker of the command of the Air Forces of the Armed Forces of Ukraine Yuri Ignat.
"We don't shoot down ballistic missiles. In particular, Iskander-M <...>. Also, unfortunately, it is not possible to intercept multiple launch rocket systems (MLRS), such as Smerch," he said in an interview with Ukrainian Channel 24 published on Thursday. - All these missiles fly fast, along a ballistic trajectory and they actually fall on the target with great speed. In order to shoot down what is already falling, special anti-aircraft missile systems are needed. We also include S-300 anti-aircraft guided missiles in ballistics."
In addition, the AFU is not capable of shooting down supersonic Onyx cruise missiles. "Also, the "narrow-profile" aviation anti-radar missiles X-31P and similar shorter-range air-to-ground missiles do not go astray," Ignat continued.
He explained that the air defense system of Ukraine can counteract only those missiles that, according to their characteristics, can be shot down by the complexes in service. "The main complexes that we have in service are the Buk-M1 and S-300," he clarified and pointed to the "critical need" for modern air defense systems.
As an example, Ignat said that for all the time Ukraine has not been able to shoot down a single supersonic cruise missile X-22. Due to the speed of the missile, the air defense forces, although they detect it, do not physically have time to intercept it with the S-300 complex. "In order to shoot down the X-22, Ukraine needs an anti-aircraft missile system that can operate in automatic mode, that is, it will independently make decisions without human participation - with the latest radar and a modern missile," he said. However, this does not guarantee the result.
Ignat has previously stated that the Ukrainian air defense system is not capable of shooting down Russian hypersonic missiles "Dagger" and X-22. According to an article by The Washington Post, Russia's use of hypersonic Dagger missiles in Ukraine showed that the United States and its allies do not possess similar weapons, which are difficult to intercept with modern missile defense systems. According to a number of domestic and Western experts, even modern air defense systems are not able to shoot down a missile of the latest Russian complex.
https://t.me/azmilitary11/41004
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Poslao: 16 Mar 2023 15:14
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Pišu da je na 850-900 metara i da se čeka ovaj "deda" da ga izvuče
Citat:American drone MQ-9 found at a depth of 900 meters. Above it, the duty of the Black Sea Fleet ships was established in order not to let anyone near the crash site. The issue of its rise is being resolved.
There is a ship in the Black Sea Fleet that is capable of doing this - the legendary "Commune" built in 1913. Rebuilt many times and having a huge track record of underwater work (including the recovery of several submarines, as well as aircraft and ships), it has deep-sea vehicles capable of operating at a depth of up to 1 km.
By the way, Commune has experience in lifting foreign equipment. In 1928, she raised the sunken British submarine L-55 in the Baltic, which was blown up by mines while evading Soviet destroyers.
https://t.me/boris_rozhin/80568
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