Rat u Siriji 2016 - Komentari, diskusije i analize članova

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Па добро, увек мора мало фантазије да се дода. Сви правци су отворени, неки мање вероватни. Остали готово па сигурни. Чим САА нападне ИД, ето зелених да ударе у леђа.
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је написао прву поруку пре скоро 5 година на овој теми. Али сада је активиран(и прошле године када је почело пржење), ништа чудно у њиховом свету.
powSrb ::Citat:#SDF forces captured Bir az Zabad, At Tuwayhinah, Khirbat Tawi and Abu as Sakhrah from #ISIS


стигла морнарица да пребаци терористе на другу страну.

Citat:#SDF forces fully captured 57 villages in #ISIS pocket - #Raqqa countryside

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Ovaj genijalac je napisao analizu kao da teroristi imaju inicijativu pa eto samo treba izabrati pravac i udariti a realno oni su sada kao grogirani bokser na konopcima koji ceka gong pre nego ga protivnik nokautira .
Sta se njima izdesavalo od svih tih enklava pa do Alepa jedino sta im predstoji je visemesecno lizanje rana i da probaju da im sponzori izdejstvuju pauzu i primirje.
Kako to nije vojska nego skup bandi ja sam ubedjen da ce oni uskoro poceti medjusobno da se ubijaju . Dosla gomila drekavaca iz tih enklava i iz Alepa u Idlib a oni su do pre par meseci bili mali Bogovi u svojim mestima a sada su postali samo obicni prasinari jer u Ildibu vec postoji gomila lokalnih Bogova sa svojim uhodanim sistemom i nece proci mnogo vremena pre nego sto pridosli zatalasaju " mi smo ginuli u Guti, Daraji i Alepu dok ste vi svirali k..cu " a ovi drugi im ne kazu "ili po nasem ili vozi dalje jer vas sada mi hranimo i opremamo " , generalno im je moral nakon toliko poraza u minusu , i moje misljenje je da ce se biti krvavih unutrasnjih obracuna . Jos ce sigurno sluzbe Sirije i Rusije bacati koske i kompromitovati malo jedne pa malo druge dok bure baruta ne eksplodira iznutra .

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Стигао онај брод у Тартус, поред оних камиона наводно и 40 тенкова(т-90), То је написао лик из тартуса и један из Латакије, нема никаквих слика.

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What comes next in Aleppo?

Како би могао да се осигура Алепо са западне стране, како би се зауставило граантирање цивила.

Citat:With the militants defeated in Aleppo city, many have raised the questions: ‘What will happen now?’. A common answer is ‘Idlib’. Although this sounds logical, the Syrian Arab Army (SAA) will have to put a lot of resources in an operation that drives into the rebel heartland.

Furthermore, the Turkish backed Euphrates Shield forces and the Islamic State are still threatening Aleppo city from the east, while the Jaish Al-Fateh agglomeration threatens the city from the west and the south.

This breakdown will focus on several possible scenarios that will further shape the military balance in the Aleppo Governorate. Note that most frontline positions are based on recent satellite footage.

Western Aleppo

For the past days, West Aleppo has been under attack by Jaish al Fateh at the Zahraa and Mallah front. Moreover, the militants are well in range to lob their hellcannon projectiles into the densely populated areas of western Aleppo.

In order to remove this threat, the SAA should secure the Anadan plains, which cities have been bastions for the militants since the start of the war (figure 2).


A full-frontal assault from the (south)east is doable, but will probably result in a large number of casualties. It is therefore more beneficial to capture the western flank (Simeon mountains) and besiege the area first.

The initial phase will consist of a big push towards Mansoura and Kafr Da’el, capturing the Military Research Center and the Al-Jazira district in the process. Meanwhile, the SAA and its allies can conduct operations to push into Al-Layramoun, Mallah and Bayanoun, if only to draw fighters away from the main operation and cause confusion amongst its ranks (figure 3).


Second, the SAA will push towards Kafr Bissin from the north and south, while also putting pressure on the western flank of Kafr Hamra and moving into the industrial area of Bayanoun and Hayyan. This will effectively besiege the Anadan plains (figure 4).


Most likely a similar battle like East Aleppo will unfold, where simultaneous attacks are being carried out on various axes to maximize the pressure on the besieged militants. This will lead either to the complete annihilation of the militants, or to a similar deal as we have seen in East Aleppo.

Khan al-Assal

Another possible operation in western Aleppo countryside could be securing the remaining Rashidin suburbs (4 & 5) and Khan al-Assal (figure 5). The latter is considered the western gate to Aleppo city.



e the ability to launch attacks towards the north (Mansoura) and subsequently to besieging the Anadan plains. The area is also an excellent to launch attacks towards the south, along the M5 highway axis. Furthermore, the area can also act as a stepping stone for an operation along the highway 60 toward the strategic Bab al-Hawa bordercrossing (figure 6). Unfortunatly, the northern flank with Mansoura occupies the high ground. Also, the militants are well entrenched in this area, making the only possible way of attack, full-frontal, very difficult. It is therefore more likely to succeed once Mansoura is control prior to such an operation.



Khan Tuman

When Jaish al Fateh retook the Khan Tuman area in May/June 2016, they used it later that year to launch their successful attacks against pro-government positions west of the Ramouseh district. From here, they were able to break the siege of East Aleppo, if only for a short while. Although the East Aleppo pocket is non-existent anymore, this area can still pose a great threat for the Syrians inside Aleppo city. Moreover, the Khan Tuman area is situated on a high that overlooks the northern part of the Qinassrin plains and is therefore very strategic (figure 7).



Operations will most likely start with the SAA and their allies targeting Qarasi and Marata and its military terrain. Capturing Qarassi will ensure that the road between Khan Tuman and Humayra is blocked, while the Marata area overlooks Khan Tuman and Al-Khalidiyah. Furthermore, by controlling both positions, the pro-government forces will be able to maneuver from multiple axes towards Khan Tuman (figure 8 & 9).



Capturing Khan Tuman will provide a nice buffer for the Ramouseh front, but will also be a springboard for subsequent operations in the Qinassrin plains (Al-Eis). It also will threaten militant positions at the western side of the M5 highway and to the north at the Rashidin and Khan al-Assal suburbs (figure 10). Nevertheless, the militants have shown they are capable to retake the area if they apply enough pressure and the region should therefore be heavily fortified.

Operations west of Aleppo focus on removing militants’ staging areas in the region: the Anadan plains, the Khan al-Assal suburb and Khan Tuman. The militants are fully aware of this and will try to hold it with everything they can in order to hold their grip on the western flank of Aleppo city.

Conclusion
With the fall of the East Aleppo pocket, there is nore more purpose for the insurgents to throw everything they have at the well fortified positions on Aleppo city’s western flank. They can try to slowly chip away territory, but ultimately they are in defensive positions and are at the mercy of the SAA and its allies.


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powSrb ::What comes next in Aleppo?


Prema onome što pišu tviteri na arapskom: Iran, Rusija i Turska postigle dogovor o okončanju rata i posredovanju između Vlade SAR i opozicije. Dogovoreno je i da se Al Nusra i ISIS unište. Ameri ispali iz igre. Zagarantovana teritorijalne celovitost SAR.

Već se komentariše da je sporazum uperen protiv Kurda.

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Znači lom u najavi na ”zelenim teritorijama”

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Sumnjam da se uništenje al nusre može destiti bez potpune propasti umerenih.

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Napisano: 20 Dec 2016 16:07

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Citat:Prema onome što pišu tviteri na arapskom: Iran, Rusija i Turska postigle dogovor o okončanju rata i posredovanju između Vlade SAR i opozicije. Dogovoreno je i da se Al Nusra i ISIS unište. Ameri ispali iz igre. Zagarantovana teritorijalne celovitost SAR.

Već se komentariše da je sporazum uperen protiv Kurda.

Po ovome mu dodje da ce Idlib biti uredno sravnjan sa zemljom odnosno cela ta provincija i da ce je jedino postedeti oni na severu Alepa, koji ce se kasnije povuci u Tursku, a Kurdi ce biti uredno obradjeni.

Turska ce obezbediti podrsku NATO-a tj da ce Ameri da cute sto im ide na ruku jer je Tramp najavio smanjenje apetita SAD-a, Rusija ce da upravlja SAA da rese Kurde u Siriji,a Iranci ce sa Iracanima da rese taj deo sa Kurdima u Iraku i Iranu. Nazalost po ljude tamo.

Bice opet problema u Srbiji ovo znaci minimum dva talasa migranata u velikom broju.

Dopuna: 20 Dec 2016 16:09

sekretar ::Sumnjam da se uništenje al nusre može destiti bez potpune propasti umerenih.

Zauzmes 5 grada u provinciji Idlib i unistio si Al Nusru, kasnije deratizujes planiske vence u pogranicnom delu sa Turskom i gotovo, Al Nusra ne postoji mozda u Turskoj,ali ne verujem da ce Rusi to dozvoliti.

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