Rat u Siriji 2016 - Komentari, diskusije i analize članova

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Južni džep u istočnoj Ghouti je u potpunosti nestao.
Nekako je mala sada ta istočno Ghouta...

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Uloguj se preko Facebooka da bi skinuo fajl:

Znamo li tacno dokle su zauzeli dzep? Negde navode ceo (ukljucujuci i Harasta Qantarah) ,a neki izvori potvrdjuju samo Zebdeen i Dayr al Asafir. Posle ovakvog uspeha bojim se da pobunjenici ne traze neko primirje da sprece dalje poraze.

Koliko je sklapanje dogovora izmedju frakcija u dzepu.?Ako ovako nastave ododse svih kod Alaha brzo.


Kakav je status dzepa?Ima li delova gde vazi primirje?

E sad je na SAA da vide sta dalje i gde mi je najbolje udariti? Ja bi licno voleo na severu da zauzmu onu izbocinu kod Tal Kurdija ,al videcemo


evo i stare mape da se vidi koliko su napredovali


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Boter ::+ Hoce toИ да не буде скроз ОТ ово писање поменућу Курде - по мени и даље највећа загонетка сиријског рата. Курдима ништа не вјерујем и мислим да су они највећи проблем за Русе у будућим преговорима… Ево мог дијалога са Курдом па сами пресудите -

- So, you Kurds did you decided who is your ally in Syria? US or Russia?

- We Kurds only consider our Mountains as our allies, no one else, for in this region, you cannot trust anybody and allies and enemies shift withing a minute…

- So what I read that YPG, for ex, is working in Syria as US ally that is not true?

- As long as US is an ally of Turkey, no; we do not consider as an ally of us Kurds on a long term, right now we are both on the same side because we fight ISIS, but our biggest enemy are Turkey and once the war with ISIS is over, we Kurds will rather have Russia as a friend than US and NATO who support and are friend of Turkey, the same Turkey that support ISIS and kill Kurdish civilian on daily bases.

- So how many US military bases do you have in northeast Syria, that you are helping americans to build? You sold your land to americans to build their bases on you land but you don't consider them as your allies? You are very young or very naive or don't know how it is. I personally don't care that you are allies with US, I know that there were talks to Russians also, and I know that Kurds are pro/american in reality but sit on 2 chairs still. My question was when are you going to say it openly for which side you are, there is not a lot more time maybe in next 6 months and it is over. That region is changed with now Russians but I think you still not understand it. Also, if you continue to be allies with americans I hope you never get your state!

- Actually we consider America like most people in Middle East as the real evil, who the fuck is the friend of American in this region? The likes of Turkey, Qatar and Saudi Arabia who are behind ISIS, maybe Russia is no different with friends like Iran and Syria, but if we Kurds to pick the less of the two evil, we will go with Russia and his friend, at least they are kinder to us Kurds, unlike the American and its shitty allies in the region, and let us be honest: America need us Kurds more than we need American, for America is losing the region to Iranian and Russian influence, America failed miserably in Iraq, Syria, Yemen and Libya, got fucked good by Iran and Russia, and now America is a fucking laughing stock here in Middle East, no one fear it anymore, on the other hand; Russia and Putin are gaining influence, now Putin is reaching out for us Kurds, in a few month we will be getting the weapons that we wanted to have but because of Turkey, America never dared to give us, Russia will provide us with those weapon, and we are opening our Oil and Gas fields for Russian very soon, just now America is realizing too late, promising 500 million dollar to help Peshmerga, but the American can stick that money up their ass, we Kurds will soon join Russian and kick the fuck out of Turkey, those bases in Rojava are just temporary, any minute we Kurds can take out the few American advisers who are there for America is not serious about defeating ISIS and those bases are just public media relation, Putin and the Russian are serious about changing this region unlike the American losers who want to keep it as it is, but I tell you this: It won't stay as it is, Syria and Iraq will break up and soon Turkey will follow and no sick American dying Empire can stop it. So who we Kurds want to be with? I say Russia, the large Kurdish public opinion is with Russia and Putin and not with lying double crossing American and coward Obama.

Ovo deluje kao kada bi neko sudio o politici i namerama Srbije po pisanju Ibrisa i sl.

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delrey ::dexyblueworld ::delrey ::Iran treba da pošalje jedno 100 hiljada vojnika. Ovo mrcvarenje ničemu ne vodi

Tako lako kazes jedno 100 000 kao da je to nesto malkice ... Mada i 50 000 da posalju cenim da bi do kraja godine istrebili pacove



Pa koliko znam Iran ima 2 miliona aktvivnih vojnika. Da deblokraju Deir ez-Zor i očiste Homs, puna kapa

2 miliona aktivnih vojnika ima Kina, Iran je na oko 500 000 a u rezervnom sastavu mozda Iran ima 2 miliona vojnika mada i to je pitanje...
Stoji da je Iran sila , istina mogli bi ali i oni kalkulisu...posto pacove proteruju iz Iraka ovi jasno prelaze u Siriju, pitanje je da li ce tu ostati do kraja ili ce naci neku sledecu zemlju

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Napisano: 19 Maj 2016 15:52

Поново.

1 of the Positions Captured by Islamic State Fighters in the of #Jazal Oilfield #Palmyra

http://tune.pk/video/6527638/zl18052016

Dopuna: 19 Maj 2016 18:54

О повлачењу хезболаха о пре неки дан, сада текст на енглеском...


Цео текст на линку.
https://elijahjm.wordpress.com/2016/05/19/hezbolla.....in-geneva/
Citat:“Hezbollah didn’t come to Syria to be part of a peace plan, it came to stop the Takfiri (al-Qaeda, Ahrar al-Sham, Jund al-Aqsa, Jaish al-Muhajereen wal Ansar, and ISIS). If peace negotiations carry on and are approved by Damascus, Tehran and Moscow, we have no job to do here: we won’t take part in any future battle that has its objective the improvement of the conditions at the negotiating table in Geneva. Hezbollah won’t pull out of Syria but will reduce the engagement and size of its forces. If Moscow and Washington are willing to fight ISIS and Al-Qaeda, Hezbollah has no more work to do in Syria and will be observing, waiting to see if the situation unfolds as planned and agreed between Moscow and Washington”.

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bojank ::Koridor ::...
Sto se tice snimka gdje TOW bije u "Irance". "Srecom" (da pod navodnicima) TOW je podzvucna raketa (oko 300 m/s a brzina zvuka je oko 340 m/s)...

21 sekundu za 3750m, znaci oko 178m/s prosecna brzina.

Mozda bi neko mogao da nam malo pojasni efekat ovih raketa na pjesadiju. Koliko je moje znanje i donekle iskustvo cisto kuulativne glave ne bi trebalo da naprave veliku stetu i pobiju sve okolo, jedino nesretnika kojeg pogode direktno ali tako je i sa prackom. Eksplozivni val izgleda veliki na ovim snimcima ali je energija uglavnom usmjerena sa mlazom. e sad ako je tandemka onda ne znam ali nosi dosta vise eksploziva i mogla bi biti zajebanija...mada opet, nema gelera nema nicega da bi imala veliki efektivni radijus. Sto se tice iskustva, znam da su recimo kumulativni trombloni pucali na pola metra od ljudi i bukvalno bez efekta...

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Udarni talas nije zanemarljive snage, posebno kod TOW raketa, plus visoke temperature. U gelere pretvara kamen, opeku ili komede metala, nije ubitačan kao npr. minobacačke mine 120 mm ali može i te kako napraviti golemu štetu.

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IlijaZ ::Udarni talas nije zanemarljive snage, posebno kod TOW raketa, plus visoke temperature. U gelere pretvara kamen, opeku ili komede metala, nije ubitačan kao npr. minobacačke mine 120 mm ali može i te kako napraviti golemu štetu.

Uff gdje nadje da poredis sa 120-kom . moje misljenje je da je 82mm ubitacniji 5 puta. Da oprlji okolo slazem se ali recimo kod ovih Iranaca na snimku ja mislim da je poginuo samo onaj sto mu je pod noge roknuo...i to nisam 100%. Ljudi prezive svasta...

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Na snimci se vide i sekundarne eksplozije, tako da tko zna šta je tamo bilo.
Inače, zanimljivo je da sam tu snimku jučer prvi put vidio na jednom proterorističkom twitteru, ali uopće nije spominjala da ima mrtvih, nego su napisali "kamion s municijom".
Tek nakon nekog vremena se pojavio na almasdaru i to s podatkom o ni manje ni više, nego 24 stradala vojnika !?

Nekad mi dođe da ih pitam - pa dobro, ljudi, za koga vi navijate?