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slonic_tonic ::MilosKop ::
https://www.rt.com/news/345415-nusra-front-syria-aleppo/

"Russia wants to ramp up airstrikes on Al Nusra Front forces in northern Syria, but the US is asking Moscow to postpone it. Washington says moderate rebel groups and terrorist forces mingle among each other and that the US needs more time to pressure the moderates to pull out from Al Nusra-held territories. Russia says the US is making no significant progress on the issue."

kakva je to samo epska debilana.
Dobri i loši teroristi su izmješani, zajedno spavaju i jedu, a ne žele se razdvajati, jer im je lijepo ovako, pa postoji velika opasnost da bi se mogao slučajno pogoditi i neki dobar terorist.

Imaju li Rusi u skladištima napalma?



Објасниће неко шта раде Руси.
Раније је увек било некога да објасни, више нека никога да му је ово јасно. Laughing

Ево снимак од пре неки дан када је САА ископала тунел и разнела терористе.

Мораће они онај Џобар цео да сруше овако ако мисле да га ослободе.

Колико ли су времена копали ово.



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Citat:je li ovo ima i srba dole sto ratuju ???
http://saff.ba/ekskluzivno-saff-otkriva-nove-infor.....1MGvOT-XpK
prema ovim izvorima kao da ima neka grupa dole



Moguće je da ima, što da ne, sirijski rat je "najmultietničkiji" skob od drugog svjetskog rata. Samo što su saffovci montirali srpski grb na naopačke okrenutu rusku zastavu, juče se ova slika pojavila na forumu. Petnaestak stranica unazad možeš da provjeriš.

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Ako SAA uspije uzeti Tabku, time će izolirati ogroman džep ISIL-ovaca, koji se proteže sve od Azaza pa do Tabke i u kojem se nalaze Manbij, Deir Hafir i Al-Bab.

Ni sam ne znam da li je to dobro ili loše.
Bojim se da time idu na ruku umiljatima iz Azaza, kao i Kurdima, a svoje snage koje ti trebale držati taj dugački i nenaseljeni koridor kroz pustinju će staviti pod veliki pritisak.

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IlijaZ ::Citat:je li ovo ima i srba dole sto ratuju ???
http://saff.ba/ekskluzivno-saff-otkriva-nove-infor.....1MGvOT-XpK
prema ovim izvorima kao da ima neka grupa dole



Moguće je da ima, što da ne, sirijski rat je "najmultietničkiji" skob od drugog svjetskog rata. Samo što su saffovci montirali srpski grb na naopačke okrenutu rusku zastavu, juče se ova slika pojavila na forumu. Petnaestak stranica unazad možeš da provjeriš.


На две слике је убачено лице овог човека.
Ако нађем оигинал поставићу.
Постављане су већ овде.

Јуришање терориста из нусре, види се да им глава није битна.


Наравно пре овога је ишао самоубица.


Онај погодак маљутком изгледа пријатељска ватра.
Наводно су погодили гомилу ових из нусре, ту је убијен неки са Кавказа.

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Јуришање терориста из нусре, види се да им глава није битна.

Онај погодак маљутком изгледа пријатељска ватра.
Наводно су погодили гомилу ових из нусре, ту је убијен неки са Кавказа.


powSrb svaka ti dala za postove Smile

Znam iz prica iz rata ovde da je postojala ekipa momaka sa 84-kama koja je sacekivala tadasnje "Nusravce"...dvije stvari su potrebne...84ka i muda...tesko je opisati rijecima kakav je to celicni mentalitet bio. Jbt ja sad gledam na yt kako pretrcavaju i ulaze u naselje, meni je frka i doslo mi da pocnem hvatati maglu Mr. Green

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powSrb ::IlijaZ ::Citat:je li ovo ima i srba dole sto ratuju ???
saff.ba/ekskluzivno-saff-otkriva-nove-infor.....1MGvOT-XpK
prema ovim izvorima kao da ima neka grupa dole



Moguće je da ima, što da ne, sirijski rat je "najmultietničkiji" skob od drugog svjetskog rata. Samo što su saffovci montirali srpski grb na naopačke okrenutu rusku zastavu, juče se ova slika pojavila na forumu. Petnaestak stranica unazad možeš da provjeriš.


На две слике је убачено лице овог човека.
Ако нађем оигинал поставићу.
Постављане су већ овде.

Јуришање терориста из нусре, види се да им глава није битна.



na ovom videu na 1.08 uzbrdica uz koju se penje transporter,

je isto kao na ovom videu, na 0,21

youtube.com/watch?time_continue=21&v=IKAtcGE4ju4
mislim da se radi o nekom aqva parku ?
ali mi čudno da ih Ruje još nisu našli Sad

Онај погодак маљутком изгледа пријатељска ватра.
Наводно су погодили гомилу ових из нусре, ту је убијен неки са Кавказа.

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Не знам да ли пратите овог лика на твитеру има добре информације.

Ево шта пише.

Citat:#Russia is offering new military equipment to #SAA, will be more visible in the coming days/weeks. Russia is re-engaging GRADUALLY +
Citat: have lot of new exclusive information on #Syria to share in the coming days. Not today. https://twitter.com/EjmAlrai

Један занимљив текст.
Руси сигурно носу блесави па да "верују" Америма да ће они нешто урадити, нешто што ће помоћи Русији.
Па они су им увели санкције и једва чекају да пропадну.
А не некакву координацију да имају.

Лепо је рекао у тексту овај, једино што Американци нуде Русима је да деле небо изнад Сирије...
Неће заједно ни да нападају такозвану ИД.

Ако су Руси ушли у Сирију и рекли да су терористи сви који држе пушке, па после тога рекли да има умерених, па склопили примире...
Па примирје пропало 10 пута.
И сад последњи пут продужили рок како би се ови разишли са нусром, шта се деси?
Деси се то да све могуће групе побуњеника/терориста заједно нападну југ Алепа.

Ако примирје није сада завршено, никада неће ни бити.

Citat:
Why Moscow is preparing to return to Syria

No countdown is currently underway for [a renewed] Russian military intervention [in Syria]. This intervention will probably never be renewed, at least not with the same momentum seen in the months prior to the ever-vacillating truce. As a matter of fact, it seems that only the Russians had counted on this intervention and believe that their achievements were sufficient to successfully embark on a political process in Geneva, which also did not materialize. Indeed, Russia keeps extending the truce [in Syria], although Russian Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu had determined May 25 the expiry date of this truce. However, this is the first time that converging signs indicate a relaunching of part of the Russian military operation — with renewed coordination with the Syrian army — ever since Moscow unilaterally decided to halt the Aleppo operation and impose a truce, even on Damascus, which reluctantly agreed to it. It should be noted that this truce is still stirring tension between Russia and the Syrian regime.

Moreover, a feeling of bitterness prevails within the Syrian army and regime about their loss of an opportunity to achieve a great victory, particularly in Aleppo’s northern countryside, and to upset the balance of power in the Syrian war as a whole.

Despite the major achievements [of the Russian intervention] on the ground in the countrysides of Latakia and in Aleppo’s southern, western and eastern countrysides, [the Syrian regime] failed to wrest control of key cities such as Idlib or Jisr al-Shughur and achieve final victory over the armed factions.

The Russian intervention has indeed failed to achieve the operational goals announced by the Russians themselves in November 2015. The Russians had stressed the imperative need to reach the Turkish-Syrian border, setting the closing of border crossings and supply routes with Turkey as a precondition to any solution. However, the Russians renounced this approach. The Russian truce has allowed armed factions, the United States, Saudi Arabia and Turkey to reorganize and rearm their ranks and rebuild most of the infrastructure destroyed by the joint Russo-Syrian operations.

Thus, it can be said that for the first time the military and the diplomatic positions have converged on the need to restrengthen [Russia’s] credibility. This might pave the way for a partial re-adoption of the military option.

Yet this time around the goals of any [renewed Russian] military operation will not be as clear or as ambitious as the previous ones. This time, the military intervention will focus on isolating Jabhat al-Nusra from other armed groups. The Russians will put their Sukhoi fighter jets to the test and bet on direct ground offensives to weaken rather than defeat Syrian armed factions. It should be noted that isolating Jabhat al-Nusra from other armed factions, which is a difficult and complicated objective, would strike a painful blow to those factions since Jabhat al-Nusra’s military and ideological might form the backbone around which those factions unite.

Thus, the positions of the Russian administration’s military and diplomatic wings on the need to return to the battlefront fall in line with the position of Shoigu, which considered that the truce option has proved to be a failure and that a deadline must be given to the armed factions to distance themselves from Jabhat al-Nusra Front. This also seems to be the position of Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov, who stated that “Moscow had not abandoned its decision to attack the armed factions that failed to abide by the truce in Syria.”

In an interview published May 31 in Russia’s daily Komsomolskaya Pravda, Lavrov said that the deadline given by Moscow to the militants was about to expire. He added, “The US asked us to extend the deadline for several days prior to the implementation of the plan we had set in advance, whereby any party that breaches the truce would become a legitimate target, irrespective of whether this party is included on the lists of terrorist organizations or not. The Americans requested us to give them a few additional days to present us with their response, but the extended deadline expires this week.”

The foregoing is an indication that helps explain the decision-making process with regard to Syria. This process is affected by a tug of war taking place between the advisers of President Vladimir Putin. The Russian military support the return to the battlefield, while a large part of Russia’s Foreign Ministry officials and officials overseeing the political process, such as Lavrov and Mikhail Bogdanov, believe that work must continue toward achieving a [political] settlement; in fact, they are banking on President Barack Obama’s desire to defeat the Islamic State (IS) in Syria.

Indeed, Russian diplomats are convinced that this is the best [political] settlement that they will get — one that will allow them to maintain a presence in Syria and reach a political solution before the end of the year when President Obama’s administration will be replaced by a new and more hawkish successor.

But Russian diplomats find themselves facing the US administration’s continued refusal of any coordination with the Russians in military operations targeting their mutual foe, IS, whether in Raqqa or northern Syria. The best possible US cooperation the United States offers is a joint US-Russian presence in Syrian airspace.

In that context, US warplanes dominate the sky over regions east of the Euphrates River, while Russian air cover blankets the region west of the river. Moreover, neither during Russia’s military operation nor after the truce went into effect did the Americans stop re-arming militant factions. The United States even supplied these factions with nearly 3,000 tons of weapons, offered them training and organized and coordinated their operations in a bid to wear out the Russians in Syria. It should be noted that this has been a clear Obama policy objective aimed to prevent embarking on any political solution as part of the United States' desire to isolate Russia. Washington, in fact, had even asked Russia not to target Jabhat al-Nusra’s positions.

Lavrov also stated that in one of their numerous telephone calls he asked his US counterpart, John Kerry, to explain why the US-led international coalition stopped targeting the terrorists in Syria, to which Kerry reiterated the same traditional justifications — which according to Lavrov are based on a bizarre [US] vision that terrorist positions are mixed with the positions of good guys who should not be targeted.

It seems that the bickering within the Russian administration on resuming the military intervention in Syria is on the verge of ending while the current US administration is entering its final months in office.

Although the mobilization of armed factions in northern Syria has not undergone any change worth mentioning, Lavrov has grown convinced that the Americans are deceiving the Russians and that the international coalition is standing idly by as terrorists and arms flow through the Syrian-Turkish border. [It seems that] Lavrov has come to believe that the terrorists are undoubtedly preparing to launch an offensive in violation of all international conventions and UN Security Council resolutions.

Without stirring a buzz similar to that of their first military intervention in Syria, the Russians this week disembarked ground forces and paratroopers in the port of Tartus to support more than 3,000 Russian volunteers dispatched to the region in the past few weeks, in a bid to revive coordination with the Syrian army.

This represents yet another additional indication that a wide-ranging operation is being prepared. This [operation] may include Raqqa, where the Russians want to have a presence on the ground to rival that of the Americans and Kurds. This may also include the countryside of Aleppo, where the Iranians are pushing for a major operation aimed to cut supply routes open to the east and retake the village of Khan Tuman, where [Iran] suffered a major setback.

In that regard, Syrian sources stated that the Russian joint command staff, which coordinated aerial support operations last fall, had returned to the Hmeimim military base in Latakia province to begin preparations for new operations.

http://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/security/2016/06/r.....truce.html

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Cini mi se da sam jednom pisao da ponovim opet...
Mnogi se cude ovim naletima drekavaca preko polja i cistog terena.Od Bosne do danas taktiku nisu menjali.Kod nas im tereni nisu dozvoljavili da salju vozila sa samoubicama ovde prvo to rade onda ide juris.Sva sustina je da izvidjanjem odrede najslabiju tacku udara i samo tu udaraju na juris.Ne zanimaju ih bokovi ne zasticenu krila itd.Jedna tacka tu sve koncentrisu i kad to padne pada i ostatak.

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Koridor ::powSrb svaka ti dala za postove Smile

Znam iz prica iz rata ovde da je postojala ekipa momaka sa 84-kama koja je sacekivala tadasnje "Nusravce"...dvije stvari su potrebne...84ka i muda...tesko je opisati rijecima kakav je to celicni mentalitet bio. Jbt ja sad gledam na yt kako pretrcavaju i ulaze u naselje, meni je frka i doslo mi da pocnem hvatati maglu Mr. Green


Треба нормална војса са друге стране, са јасним системом команде.
А не ова деца коју су Иранци послали која баци пушке и побегне после прве гранате.
Као што рече један човек, и код нас су деца држала линије на крају крајева, па нису бежали попут ових...

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