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Rat u Siriji, 2018. godina

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Да се вратимо теми. Израелци кажу да су разбили теорију МО русије о скривању авиона иза Ил20 и да су Ф16ице биле у ВП Израела када је он оборен, те да је САА 40 минута гађала у празно.

Сачекајмо и Руске изворе, ево доле Израелских.
Israel: Russia accepts our take on Syrian downing of plane, coordination goes on
Citat:Delegation to Moscow ‘debunked’ claim Israeli jets hid behind spy plane, stressed jets had left area before Syrians fired fatal missile; Russia was notified ahead of strike

The official said an Israeli military delegation had answered Russia’s questions over Monday’s incident, including debunking the false notion that the Israeli jets had hidden behind the Russian plane. Israel also clarified that its attack planes had left the area before the Syrians fired the missile that downed the Russian plane.

He also said Israel notified the Russians ahead of the strike, and not a minute before as Moscow had originally claimed. And he dismissed a pro-Hezbollah newspaper’s claim Friday that Russia had refused to accept Israel’s explanations over the incident, for which Israel firmly blames Syria....

...“Most of those 20 were fired while all of our planes were already in Israeli airspace and on their way to land. We proved how the Syrians’ reckless anti-air fire was the direct cause of hitting the Russian aircraft,” the officer said...

...The delegation also refuted the Russian military’s initial claim that the Israeli pilots used the Russian Il-20 spy plane as a “shield” during their attack.

We emphasized that there is no merit to the theory that this was an Israeli provocation or that Israeli airplanes made any use of the Russian airplane as cover. We debunked that false story,” the officer said. The senior official added that the Israeli jets were “nowhere near the Russian plane when it was shot down.”


Значи они негирају све што је Русија рекла после обарања.
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са страног форума
Citat:1) Israel knows the particular radar coverage of static SAA AD radars in the area.
2) Israel knows that a Russian Il-20 plane is doing patrols in the area.
3) Israel decides to attack targets in the vicinity of Russian airbase at this particular moment because......reasons.
4) Israel sends 4 F-16s (armed with several GBU-39 gliding bombs each) to skim low over the sea in order to get as close to the targets without being discovered.
5) The F-16s quickly climb in altitude with afterburners, are quickly discovered by SAA AD radars, and a semi-active S-200 missile (or several, which would be standard operating procedure of all ex-Soviet and Russian AD) is sent to intercept the planes.
6) Assuming an afterburner speed of ~1-2 mach at the time of bomb release, and a target distance of ~100km, the bombs are gliding at ~0.5km/sec, which would take about 200 sec or ~2-3 minutes to reach targets.
7) Once Israel sees their aircraft appear on radar and release bombs, they "politely" inform the Russian side (~1 minute before impact), while the attacking aircraft quickly turn around, and descend below radar coverage using said afterburners in order to escape radar tracking and to get away from the trailing s200 missile (not sure where the s200 launcher is located, which would dictate the amount of time Israeli pilots would have to reach the necessary altitude to release bombs, make a turn and descend below radar - but I am certain Israel knows and made their plans accordingly).
Cool The missile, designed to home in on radar reflections, after losing the F-16s, homes in on the one remaining target that is still reflecting, the Il-20.
9) End of story.


Фотке са састанка. Што су лица јевреја сакривена?



И једна из околине Идлиба
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Протесты и митинги боевиков Хайят тахрир аш Шам,начинают охватывать новые города провинции Идлиб



Помимо Серакиба,люди(боевики)выходят с лозунгами: “мы против меморандума России и Турции в создании демилитаризованной зоны”


Напомним,руководство боевиков ХтаШ отказалось покинуть территорию Идлиба

н.п.Кафр-Зита,Джиср аль Шугур

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Ja bih zamolio kolege da, koliko je moguće, prevode ruski na srpski. Eto, ima nas i koji ne znamo ruski Embarassed

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Napisano: 21 Sep 2018 16:57

I ja sam ogorčen poslije obaranja Ruskog aviona...iskreno očekivao sam jači odgovor ali očigledno je da se ne moze jače odgovoriti...Izrael gadja šta oće i gdje oće...Mislim da je tu granica koju su Rusi morali postaviti, ali ko sam ja da cijenim šta je trebalo i koliko su mogli...Asad je sada u velikom problemu jer mu prete i egzekucijom, snimajući njegovu rezidenciju..Bezobrazluk...Kakav Hezbolah...Vjerujem i da se povukao Hezbolah i Iranci, oni bi našli izgovor da gadjaju Sirijske objekte i SAA...Pa zar ne drže suverenu teritoriju Sirije...Golansku visoravan...Ne zarezuju ni UN niti ikoga sem Amera...Zato mi je bez veze da pokušavamo opravdati napade po Siriji i pokušaj s-200 da obori f-16...Ako Rusija stvarno želi da ih spriječi mogla je da proglasi no fly zonu kao Ameri u Tanfu zar ne ...

Dopuna: 21 Sep 2018 17:01

Bojim se da ekonomske sankcije ruše moć Rusije...Skup je ovo rat za Ruse....plus učešće u Ukrajini i Gruziji...Sve to jako košta, iako je ovo ulaganje za budućnost....Ali ne može se protiv cijelog svijeta, na žalost....

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Kosta ali bi mnogo vise kostalo da je kod njih u dvoristu.

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Jel' provalio neko gde je cenovnik?


Rusi su nasli njen oglas "Emily Blonde Lux ,England,London Escort Independent" , predstavlja se kao Poljakinja ali nije primereno da se ovde kaci link jebarnika jer ima skoro 1000 devojaka od Vardara pa do Triglava na tom sajtu. Kapiram da je pitanje bilo retoricko ali da ja na raspolaganju imam 1600e za 24h nasao bih 10 boljih riba od nje.
Kraj off-a, na PP ne odgovaram Ziveli Very Happy

@NenadG
Protesti i mitinzi su zahvatili nove gradove provincije Ildib , oko Serakiba teroristi izlaze sa parolama "mi smo protiv memoranduma Rusije i Turske i stvaranja demilitarizovane zone", naglasavamo da je rukovodstvo terorista odbilo napustiti teritoriju Ildiba". Fotke su iz gradova Kafr Zita , Dzezir i Al Sukur

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Ako Fsa ima Smerč onda SAA treba dostaviti Tornado..😆😆😆

Dopuna: 21 Sep 2018 17:25

Ionako su oba Ruska sistema

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То је САА бм30 на фотки, немају то шарени

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Za neke odluke mogu da razumem Ruse.

U ovom trenutku Rusiji vise treba Turska nego obrnuto. Turski tok se zavrsava Q4 2019, snaga Sibira takodje, Severni Tok 2 takodje, sve konvergira ka tada.

Ako prekinu kakve-takve odnose sa Turskom, mogu slobodno da se pozdrave sa Ukrajinom, sve to pada u vodu.


S druge strane, Putinov tretman vojske mu sigurno nece doneti prijatelje, naprotiv.

Apropo PR sluzbe Putina, odmah posle obaranja aviona izasao je novi promo snimak

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