Rat u Siriji, 2018. godina

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Citat:Cavusoglu will travel to Russia to discuss the process of the U.S. withdrawal in the coming days, broadcaster CNN Turk said.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-mideast-crisis-.....SKCN1OO094

https://mobile.twitter.com/i24NEWS_EN/status/1077239394292117511

Citat:US delegation travelling to Ankara next week to discuss Syria withdrawal, government says US patriot missile sale does not affect S-400 purchase from Russia

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2018/12/trump-accep.....22424.html

Citat:Trump 'accepts Erdogan's invitation' to visit Turkey in 2019

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Rekoh ja da sultan ide na noge pred cara😁

https://mobile.twitter.com/guyelster/status/1077510855875534856

President #Erdogan says that he will visit #Russia to meet Putin in a few days regarding the US troops' withdrawal from #Syria

I dok svi prete i udaraju u grudi, Kinezi na tiha vrata ulaze i isppd radara završavaju poslove

https://mobile.twitter.com/IvanSidorenko1/status/1077336041651081217

Citat:Private meeting between Mr Mohamed As'aad the parliament member with the counselor and vice president of the Chinese Republic delegation at the Chinese embassy in Damascus Mr Ma Xue Liang where both discussed common issues.

U pokrajini Manbij u selu Al-Arima uspostavljena zajednička kontrolna tačka izmedju SDF-a i SAA

https://mobile.twitter.com/IvanSidorenko1/status/1077509982021664768

Citat:In an interesting development for the first time in Al-Arima village in Manbij CS, there is a joint check-point belonging to #SAA and SDF on the highway.

Dogovor izmedju SDF-a i SAA prema kojem će SAA preuzeti kontrolu nad regionom Al-Arima u pokrajini Manbij

https://mobile.twitter.com/IvanSidorenko1/status/1077514209855000581

Citat:the implementation of the agreement will start by SDF handing over the region of Al-Arima(العريمة) entirely and returning it to the motherland Syria, as a goodwill gesture from SDF

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Citat:Trump 'accepts Erdogan's invitation' to visit Turkey in 2019

Dočekaće ga kao Kenedija u Dalasu

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Da li je moguce da je ovo pravi razlog povlacenja Matisa?

militarytimes.com/news/your-military/2.....re-coming/

Konkretno, Blackwater lovi ugovor za Afganistan ali i druga potencijalna zarista.

militarytimes.com/news/your-military/2.....istan-war/

Ovo je clanak od pre par meseci, ali ima jedan zanimljiv deo:

"But Trump listened to his national security team instead, including critics of the plan like Defense Secretary Jim Mattis, former Secretary of State Rex Tillerson and former National Security Adviser H.R. McMaster.
Now, more than a year later, Prince senses opportunity again. McMaster and Tillerson are no longer working for the White House; Mattis' ability to influence the president seems to have waned and new National Security Adviser John Bolton told ABC News this month he’s “always open to new ideas.”

"Mattis remains opposed to a privatized force and was blunt in his criticism when asked about it by Military Times at a Pentagon press briefing last week.“When Americans put their nation’s credibility on the line, privatizing it is probably not a wise idea,” Mattis said."

I evo pre par dana je i Matis dao ostavku. Od ove ekipe je ostao jos samo Bolton, koji je "otvoren za nove ideje"
Tramp je biznismen, verovatno i vojsku posmatra kao posao gde moze da se napravi outsourcing i smanji troskove.
A samim tim sto je zamenik Matisa covek koji je vise nego upoznat sa ugovorima sa vojno-industrijskim kompleksom, meni deluje da bi moglo da ode u tom pravcu.
Izvinjavam se ako je off, ali mislim da je indirektno vezano za temu.

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Ako je vjerovati CNNu, tokom razgovora telefonom Erdogan je toliko iritirao Trampa da je ovaj na kraju rekao: Eto vam sve. Mi smo zavrsili...

Citat:US President Donald Trump told Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan the US was "done" with Syria as the pair discussed the possible withdrawal of US forces from the country.

Erdogan was explaining all the problems with the US presence in Iraq and Syria and was irritating Trump, according to a senior administration official who received a detailed readout of the phone call between both presidents.
"OK, it's all yours. We are done," Trump said, according to the source.

https://edition.cnn.com/2018/12/23/politics/donald.....index.html

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https://mobile.twitter.com/guyelster/status/1077510855875534856

President #Erdogan says that he will visit #Russia to meet Putin in a few days regarding the US troops' withdrawal from #Syria


Medjutim, car je trenutno zauzet "Ruski predsjednik nema trenutno planove da se sastane sa Erdoganom" - Peskov

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-mideast-crisis-.....SKCN1OO0HB

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Napisano: 25 Dec 2018 14:23

Citat:Upokrajini Manbij u selu Al-Arima uspostavljena zajednička kontrolna tačka izmedju SDF-a i SAA

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In an interesting development for the first time in Al-Arima village in Manbij CS, there is a joint check-point belonging to #SAA and SDF on the highway.

Dogovor izmedju SDF-a i SAA prema kojem će SAA preuzeti kontrolu nad regionom Al-Arima u pokrajini Manbij

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Citat:
the implementation of the agreement will start by SDF handing over the region of Al-Arima(العريمة) entirely and returning it to the motherland Syria, as a goodwill gesture from SDF

https://mobile.twitter.com/aa_arabic/status/1077545953123622913

Citat:ANADOLU AGENCY: Syrian forces enter the town of "Arima" in the western countryside of the city of Manbj east of Aleppo (correspondent Anatolia)

https://mobile.twitter.com/leventkemaI/status/1077548044042846209?s=09





Citat:40 pickups and a few tanks of the Assad regime entered the Arimah region to the west of Manbij with the agreement reached with the PKK. The PKK and the Assad regime agreed to defend the west of Manbij against an attack from the FSA and TuAr.

Potvrdjeno

Dopuna: 25 Dec 2018 15:21

I Rusi se instalirali

https://mobile.twitter.com/Bosni94/status/1077565666339815424

Citat:Russian army forces established an installation point inside the village of Al-Arima west of Manbij after entered it earlier today.

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Otuda ne cudi da na forumu preovladava teorija zavjere koja ide dotle da sugerira da se Tramp dogovorio sa Putinom, bez obzira na cinjenicu da Amerika i Rusija vec tri godine nemaju skoro nikakvih kontakata na drzavnom nivou, svaka dva mjeseca ameri uvode sankcije rusima, Tramp izlazi iz posljednejeg zivog sporazuma o nuklearnom razoruzanju, i dok traje FBI istraga o koluziji (saradnji) Trampovog izbornog staba sa rusima u toku kampanje.


Ne bih baš to smatrao nekakvom zavjerom. Nije valjda da zaista misliš da nemaju nikakvog kontakta? Mislim, nije to samo na diplomatskim razinama nego na najvišim nivoima. Pa sve ovo se sigurno nije moglo ostvariti bez barem nekakvog kontakta s Rusijom. Pa neka i preko posrednika.

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Ne bih baš to smatrao nekakvom zavjerom. Nije valjda da zaista misliš da nemaju nikakvog kontakta? Mislim, nije to samo na diplomatskim razinama nego na najvišim nivoima. Pa sve ovo se sigurno nije moglo ostvariti bez barem nekakvog kontakta s Rusijom. Pa neka i preko posrednika.

Ja koliko znam imaju otvorenu liniju komunikacije na najvisem vojnom nivou, bar prema izjavi generala Dunforda
Citat:Q. And to General Dunford, I want to ask you if possible, about something you don't really talk about which is your communications with your Russian counterpart, General Gerasimov.

GEN. DUNFORD: So, I -- I maintain the communications link with my Russian counterparts for the entire time that I've been in this assignment. And we do it to mitigate the risk of miscalculation, to manage a crisis, and also to deconflict operations inside of Syria.

The one thing we committed to early in the relationship is that we wouldn't talk publicly about the substance of our conversations, to avoid our relationship becoming politicized. Because we do believe, particularly at this critical time, that maintaining that communications link is very important.


Dakle, pricaju vojni sefovi ali nece da o tome pricaju. Ali to su vjerujem tehnicke (vojnicke) price. Ne politicke, a pogotovu ne dogovori o politici u Siriji.

Razgovora na nivou predsjedinka ili vlada sigurno nema. Ruska i americka pozicija u Siriji su direktno suprotstavljene. Rusija i Amerika u stvari ratuju u Siriji kroz proksije.

Zasto bi Trampu trebao kontakt ili dogovor sa Rusima da bi donio odluku o povlacenju iz Sirije. Ne rauzmijem logiku?