Rat u Siriji, 2018. godina

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Sumnjam da će se to dogoditi ukoliko se pokrene ofanziva na Idlib. Ovaj Al Masdar, primetio sam još pre par godina, je vladin kanal koji služi za plasiranje dezinformacija u cilju pripremanje javnog mnjenja i dizanje morala sirijskom stanovništvu.

Uvek se poziva na anonimne izvore, da su dobro obavešteni i sl. Malo čudno za Leitha koji je u Libanu. I oni donose uvek prvi neke, pikantne, informacije koje nekad deluju naučnofantastično. Ovo što se piše za svako selo da je strategijsko tek da ne pominjem.

Kako Turci mogu da uđu u Tel Rifat, tako može i da doleti neka raketa s ruske strane. Turci su pametni, znaju vojnu teoriju, kopnena ofanziva ne ide bez vazdušne zaštite ukoliko protivnik ima avijaciju i može da ugrozi kopnene snage. Pored toga, pomeranje stanovništva (u Idlibu) neće ići ka teritorijama pod kontrolom Damaska već ka Turskoj, što će pak dodatno predstavljati problem za tursko-arapske odnose.

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[quote="powSrb"]То је само превод и мало додавања са оног твита, главне црте има ту још доста да се пише.


Званично саопштење Курда после сукоба у Камишлију где је убијено 11 војника САА и 7 припадника СДС.

The unfortunate incident that took place in Qamishlo must not hinder the political solution.
Они тврде да еј војска ушла у њихов део града(говори се да су амери требали да прођу туда) и да она оном снимку нису они први пуцали већ НОС/NDF. На снимку се види да сви они држе пушке уперене у земљу, и онда се чује пуцањ, све је могуће.

https://www.ypgrojava.org/The-unfortunate-incident.....-solution.
[quote]To the public!
Čuj, regularna Sirijska Armija ušla u Sirijski grad?!!
Sram ih bilo!

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Čuj, regularna Sirijska Armija ušla u Sirijski grad?!!
Sram ih bilo!Ушла(ако је и ушла уопште) на територију под контролом нелегалних оружаних формација са којима је у некој врсти прекида ватре и преговорима. Мало мање упадица са тим досадним коментарима а мало више конструктивне дискусије.

Елајџа оштро

THE LIBERATION OF IDLIB: TURKEY IS IN THE WAY, WITH RUSSIA SLOWING DOWN
https://ejmagnier.com/2018/09/14/the-liberation-of.....wing-down/
Citat:Turkey is pushing further reinforcements of troops, commando units and tanks into the northern Syrian city of Idlib and around it, for a specific objective: to disrupt the attack against the city by the Syrian forces and their allies supported by Russia. Ankara is indeed taking advantage of the Russian slowing down of its strategy to liberate the city from jihadists (including al-Qaeda) due to the US threat to bomb the Syrian Army and government forces under that excuse of “using chemical weapons”. This “chemical weapon” has become part of the battle of Idlib, used as a tool to wage war on Syria just as the war is coming to an end.

Russia considers the Turkish reinforcements as a breach of the Astana Turkish-Russian-Iranian deal, which limited the number of observation points and the military presence around the city and rural areas of Idlib. Moreover, Russia effectively considers Turkey to be unable to fulfil its commitment to totally end the presence of jihadists, especially including the group of al-Qaeda, stationed in the city and around it. In fact, the Turkish president Erdogan has asked for an extended delay to meet the Russian and the Iranian demands related to Idlib. This delay has been rejected by the government of Damascus whose leaders believe it is counterproductive to the interests of the country (to liberate the whole of Syria) and, further, would confirm the Russian president’s hesitancy which is apparently due to the US threat.

Decision makers in Damascus said “Turkey has offered Russia the protection of its military base in Hmaymeem by preventing any further drone attack against it. The Russian base has been subject to over 55 armed drone attacks, all shot down by the Russian defence system around the base which is on the Syrian coast. Actually, Russia itself is prepared to attack rural Latakia in order to create a safety zone for its base and remove the presence of the jihadists who have claimed responsibility for most of the attacks. Russia has rejected the Turkish offer, asking Ankara to abide by its agreement and eliminate the Jihadists from the city using Turkish influence to avoid the attack. Damascus believes Turkey would like to annexe Idlib and is, therefore, rejecting any deal with Turkey beyond the one already signed in Astana which consisted of a commitment to “finish off” all jihadists”.

Furthermore, according to the sources, Turkey “promised to include Jabhat al-Nusra, aka Hay’at Tahrir al-Sham, within one single army in Idlib to satisfy the Russian demands and show its control over the jihadists. Ankara’s troops are bringing in more military personnel – as Turkey presents it – to support all Turkish proxies in their battle against jihadists who refuse to surrender or merge with the other groups. According to recent information provided by Turkish intelligence to Russia and Iran, the Turkish army is prepared to attack any group refusing to submit to Turkey. Moreover, it seems that hundreds of jihadists have left Syria for another destination. Ankara is facilitating the exit- or else- of all jihadists: otherwise, these will have to fight and die in Idlib”.

Turkey is asking for more time, to delay the attack against Idlib for few more weeks. In the meantime, Syria’s allies are determined to control the rural area around Idlib, including rural Hama and Latakia. For this purpose, and for fear of a possible attack on Aleppo by jihadists as a way to divert the Syrian forces attack, the allies are sending large numbers of troops digging in for defensive purposes around Aleppo.

Syria’s allies and Damascus itself consider Russia to have slowed down the pace of its attack, thus allowing Turkey to raise concerns worldwide about the necessity of the attack on Idlib. Turkey encouraged the US to take its time to prepare its bank of objectives (targets) in Syria in the case it decides to bomb Syria. Also, it has pressed the international community, mainly the Europeans, to intervene to prevent a possible “flood of refugees and jihadists towards the continent of Europe in the case of an attack on Idlib”. Today, the two superpowers (Russia and the US) have conducted military manoeuvres in the Mediterranean facing the Syrian coast and in Syria (Tanf). So they are indeed “walking on the edge of an abyss” while flexing their muscles to each other.
На фотки у чланку испод овога вођа Чеченске групе у Идлибу 2015 после уласка у град.

According to my sources, Turkey “is asking for more time to solve the situation in Idlib without a fight. Also, it is proposing to solve the issue of tens of thousands of its armed Syrian proxy militants when the political reconciliation has matured. All these indicate strongly that Turkey is not willing to leave Syria”.

Moscow has substantial strategic interests engaged with Ankara (commercial exchange, armaments, plus facilitating and selling energy) as well as with Tehran (commerce and energy exchange- one consequence of the Turkish rejection of the US unilateral sanctions on Iran). President Erdogan is playing on this strategic relationship to stop the battle of Idlib. Nevertheless, both Russia and Iran themselves sustain a more profound strategic relationship with Syria, where the desire to put an end to the war and see all of Syria liberated is much stronger.

“There is no plan to attack the city of Idlib for now”, say the sources. The liberation of rural Hama, Latakia and Idlib are the main objectives. The almost two million Syrian civilians are not expected to exit to Turkey or Europe. They are invited to leave all areas which are under the control of the jihadists (mainly al-Qaeda and its partners or its armed supporters) and move into the city of Idlib under Turkish control.

What is clear so far is the certainty that President Assad is not ready to give up Idlib to President Erdogan. Assad is said to be ready to start the attack in a few weeks even alone, at the cost of dragging everybody behind him onto the battlefield.
Страшан је тај Асад хоће да их повуче све заједно у канал.

То је то, мање више се о овоме причало протеклих недеља. Турци неће да дозволе борбу, Турци хоће још времена да се обрачунају са Нусром, Турци хоће све то како би преузели контролу над Идлибом и зауставили напад. Окрени обрни испаде да Турци хоће Идлиб овако или онако.

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powSrb ::vukovi ::
Čuj, regularna Sirijska Armija ušla u Sirijski grad?!!
Sram ih bilo!Ушла(ако је и ушла уопште) на територију под контролом нелегалних оружаних формација са којима је у некој врсти прекида ватре и преговорима. Мало мање упадица са тим досадним коментарима а мало више конструктивне дискусије.

Елајџа оштро

THE LIBERATION OF IDLIB: TURKEY IS IN THE WAY, WITH RUSSIA SLOWING DOWN
https://ejmagnier.com/2018/09/14/the-liberation-of.....wing-down/
Citat:Turkey is pushing further reinforcements of troops, commando units and tanks into the northern Syrian city of Idlib and around it, for a specific objective: to disrupt the attack against the city by the Syrian forces and their allies supported by Russia. Ankara is indeed taking advantage of the Russian slowing down of its strategy to liberate the city from jihadists (including al-Qaeda) due to the US threat to bomb the Syrian Army and government forces under that excuse of “using chemical weapons”. This “chemical weapon” has become part of the battle of Idlib, used as a tool to wage war on Syria just as the war is coming to an end.

Russia considers the Turkish reinforcements as a breach of the Astana Turkish-Russian-Iranian deal, which limited the number of observation points and the military presence around the city and rural areas of Idlib. Moreover, Russia effectively considers Turkey to be unable to fulfil its commitment to totally end the presence of jihadists, especially including the group of al-Qaeda, stationed in the city and around it. In fact, the Turkish president Erdogan has asked for an extended delay to meet the Russian and the Iranian demands related to Idlib. This delay has been rejected by the government of Damascus whose leaders believe it is counterproductive to the interests of the country (to liberate the whole of Syria) and, further, would confirm the Russian president’s hesitancy which is apparently due to the US threat.

Decision makers in Damascus said “Turkey has offered Russia the protection of its military base in Hmaymeem by preventing any further drone attack against it. The Russian base has been subject to over 55 armed drone attacks, all shot down by the Russian defence system around the base which is on the Syrian coast. Actually, Russia itself is prepared to attack rural Latakia in order to create a safety zone for its base and remove the presence of the jihadists who have claimed responsibility for most of the attacks. Russia has rejected the Turkish offer, asking Ankara to abide by its agreement and eliminate the Jihadists from the city using Turkish influence to avoid the attack. Damascus believes Turkey would like to annexe Idlib and is, therefore, rejecting any deal with Turkey beyond the one already signed in Astana which consisted of a commitment to “finish off” all jihadists”.

Furthermore, according to the sources, Turkey “promised to include Jabhat al-Nusra, aka Hay’at Tahrir al-Sham, within one single army in Idlib to satisfy the Russian demands and show its control over the jihadists. Ankara’s troops are bringing in more military personnel – as Turkey presents it – to support all Turkish proxies in their battle against jihadists who refuse to surrender or merge with the other groups. According to recent information provided by Turkish intelligence to Russia and Iran, the Turkish army is prepared to attack any group refusing to submit to Turkey. Moreover, it seems that hundreds of jihadists have left Syria for another destination. Ankara is facilitating the exit- or else- of all jihadists: otherwise, these will have to fight and die in Idlib”.

Turkey is asking for more time, to delay the attack against Idlib for few more weeks. In the meantime, Syria’s allies are determined to control the rural area around Idlib, including rural Hama and Latakia. For this purpose, and for fear of a possible attack on Aleppo by jihadists as a way to divert the Syrian forces attack, the allies are sending large numbers of troops digging in for defensive purposes around Aleppo.

Syria’s allies and Damascus itself consider Russia to have slowed down the pace of its attack, thus allowing Turkey to raise concerns worldwide about the necessity of the attack on Idlib. Turkey encouraged the US to take its time to prepare its bank of objectives (targets) in Syria in the case it decides to bomb Syria. Also, it has pressed the international community, mainly the Europeans, to intervene to prevent a possible “flood of refugees and jihadists towards the continent of Europe in the case of an attack on Idlib”. Today, the two superpowers (Russia and the US) have conducted military manoeuvres in the Mediterranean facing the Syrian coast and in Syria (Tanf). So they are indeed “walking on the edge of an abyss” while flexing their muscles to each other.
На фотки у чланку испод овога вођа Чеченске групе у Идлибу 2015 после уласка у град.

According to my sources, Turkey “is asking for more time to solve the situation in Idlib without a fight. Also, it is proposing to solve the issue of tens of thousands of its armed Syrian proxy militants when the political reconciliation has matured. All these indicate strongly that Turkey is not willing to leave Syria”.

Moscow has substantial strategic interests engaged with Ankara (commercial exchange, armaments, plus facilitating and selling energy) as well as with Tehran (commerce and energy exchange- one consequence of the Turkish rejection of the US unilateral sanctions on Iran). President Erdogan is playing on this strategic relationship to stop the battle of Idlib. Nevertheless, both Russia and Iran themselves sustain a more profound strategic relationship with Syria, where the desire to put an end to the war and see all of Syria liberated is much stronger.

“There is no plan to attack the city of Idlib for now”, say the sources. The liberation of rural Hama, Latakia and Idlib are the main objectives. The almost two million Syrian civilians are not expected to exit to Turkey or Europe. They are invited to leave all areas which are under the control of the jihadists (mainly al-Qaeda and its partners or its armed supporters) and move into the city of Idlib under Turkish control.

What is clear so far is the certainty that President Assad is not ready to give up Idlib to President Erdogan. Assad is said to be ready to start the attack in a few weeks even alone, at the cost of dragging everybody behind him onto the battlefield.
Страшан је тај Асад хоће да их повуче све заједно у канал.

То је то, мање више се о овоме причало протеклих недеља. Турци неће да дозволе борбу, Турци хоће још времена да се обрачунају са Нусром, Турци хоће све то како би преузели контролу над Идлибом и зауставили напад. Окрени обрни испаде да Турци хоће Идлиб овако или онако.

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Nema rata bez Turaka stiže još tehnike


Eksplodirala bomba u bazi SDF-a u Manbidžu
https://en.muraselon.com/2018/09/blast-hit-us-us-backed-militia-base-manbij/

Jes Gama opet Izrael gađa al rabota i PVO SAA



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Citat:Čuj, regularna Sirijska Armija ušla u Sirijski grad?!!
Sram ih bilo!

Јасно је ко је овде крив, али објасни сврху овог коментара? Ми овде сви знамо какво је стање тамо. Да то је Сирији, да САА би требало да може да се креће по целој земљи, али не може.

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Не, ја преносим вести и тврдње обе стране. Твоји коментари немају никакву сврху. Шта то САА треба да ради, зато што је њихова земља да се вози где хоће у ратном стању? Ако су се и возили. То је као да се САА увезе у Идлиб и убију их и ти поставиш коментар попут овог горе. Шта тачно значи тај коментар? Ништа, ето шта.

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Moje mišljenje je da ubistvo SAA vojnika nije ništa drugo do provokacija SAD poltrona i patrona.Treba im očajnički sukob Kurda i SAA ili još bolje, konfrontacija sa Erdoganom...Ne treba zaboraviti da bi SAA mogao sklopiti savez sa Turcima i opaliti po žutima..Politika u Siriji je prevazišla sve okvire logike...

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powSrb ::Шта то САА треба да ради, зато што је њихова земља да се вози где хоће у ратном стању? Ако су се и возили. То је као да се САА увезе у Идлиб и убију их и ти поставиш коментар попут овог горе. Шта тачно значи тај коментар? Ништа, ето шта.

U Idlibu su neprijatelji SAA, dok Kurdi to nisu...makar ne otvoreno. A ovo je bio cisto neprijateljski cin, podmukao, jer se od njih to nije ocekivalo.

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u ratu nema:nece valjda,verovatno,mozda nece,mozda hoce,neocekivano,nece oni nas,i oni su ljudi....jednostavno budi spreman na najgore!