Citat:-Нас обстреливается артиллерией и минометами. На границах и в пригородах — окопная война. Жестче всего в районе «Металлиста» (Тот самый поселок, в котором погибли журналисты НТВ Игорь Корнелюк и Антон Волошин — прим. ред.). Противник копит силы.
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Но у «укров» мало снарядов для «Градов». Для остального хватает. Обстреливают и днем и ночью. Я воюю в разведывательно-диверсионном отряде.
-Броника нет. Да и с ним в разведке неудобно. У нас диверсионная тактика. Один способ — ударить из чего-нибудь по врагу и убежать. Второй — засада на технику противника. То есть, мы разведывательно-диверсионная группа. Разведываем — бьем.
-Инструктора есть? Они россияне? Говорят, что тактике разведывательно-диверсионных групп (РДГ) учат чеченцы — у них опыт применения «троек» (пулеметчик, снайпер, гранатометчик) большой.
-У нас нет инструкторов особых. Все осваиваем на практике. Но есть и группы состоящие из профи. Обмениваемся опытом. И я все-таки не в спецназе служу. Мы что-то типа фронтовой РДГ. Смешанного состава —и россияне, и новороссы.
http://ura.ru/content/perm/07-07-2014/news/1052184756.html
ShurikSST ::veljko82 ::Ma vazno je da se ustanak odrzi do zime. Da bi tada moglo da se pregovara.A civili su tu kolatelarna steta i niko se ne streca previse oko njih.
Dozvoli Veljko, sta ce to da se desi zimi? Sta to ocekujemo zimus?Pa gasnu krizu.Onda ce Rusi sve vojne poraze da nadoknade pregovorima.Tako kazu podrzavaoci sadasnje ruske politike.
Citat:Kakva je to ista takva vlast koja bi trebala biti dovedena u Rusiju?
Pa da se isto tako dovedu jevrejski_oligarsi na vlast u rusiju.
Kako ti to nije jasno?
Dali treba nekome nacrtati?
Šta si mislio.. da bi hodorkovski, kasparov itd. samo tako odustali i dopustili da tamo nekih 150 miliona slovenskih "životinja" bele rase kontroliše tolika prirodna bogatstva i teritorij?
Zapadni Ukrajinci i Istocni Ukrajinci su mnogo bliskiji nego sto mi to zamisljamo. A cak su jos bliskiji stanovnici Kijeva i Moskve medjusobno. Rusi i Ukrajinci su u dobroj meri jedan narod, jedan svet, iako je razlika izmedju ruskog i ukrajinskog jezika znacajna, sustinska razlika izmedju Rusa i Ukrajinaca nije veca od one izmedju Srba i Crnogoraca.Cilj nove vlasti u Ukrajini nije da odvoji Ukrajinu od Rusije, vec da srusi Putina i postavi istu takvu vlast u Rusiji, tako da ovaj rat treba posmatrati kao krvavu politicku borbu a ne kao medjunacionalni rat izmedju Rusije i Ukrajine.
Ako sam te dobro razumeo ti kazes da trenutna Ukrajinska vlast zeli da srusi Putina i dovede istu takvu vlast kako ti kazes u Rusiju?
Kakva je to ista takva vlast koja bi trebala biti dovedena u Rusiju?
Nekoga kao Aleksej Navaljni, prozapadno orijentisanog, koji bi se odrekao svih atributa svetske sile koje Rusija ima. Pre svega je cilj da se neutralise ruska energetska i vojna moc, da ruske vojne i naftne kompanije budu u vlasnistvu americkih kompanija iz odgovarajuceg sektora sto bi neutralisalo i rusku politicku moc, kao sto je uradjeno sa Nemackom i Japanom posle Drugog svetskog rata.
Radical party leader Oleh Lyasho forces Sloviansk city council head to resign inside the city hall building on July 7
Quick summary:
-He threatens him with summary execution (note the armed thugs with him)
-Forces him to write a resignation letter where:
He admits to being a traitor and a coward because he let the rebels take over the town
That this makes him responsible for the deaths of people in Sloviansk
That this letter is written voluntarily and not under duress (points to his thugs as witnesses of his voluntarism)
Glory to Ukraine, Death to Occupants
Signature, date
He then asks him to find every councilmember, meet, and dissolve the council. Otherwise he'll be back and will dissolve it himself.
If I understood correctly, Lyashko intends to use this letter in a court where this councilman will be judged for separatism and helping terrorists - (15 years in prison)
veljko82 ::ShurikSST ::veljko82 ::Ma vazno je da se ustanak odrzi do zime. Da bi tada moglo da se pregovara.A civili su tu kolatelarna steta i niko se ne streca previse oko njih.
Dozvoli Veljko, sta ce to da se desi zimi? Sta to ocekujemo zimus?Pa gasnu krizu.Onda ce Rusi sve vojne poraze da nadoknade pregovorima.Tako kazu podrzavaoci sadasnje ruske politike.
Hmmm, gasna kriza? A koja je to? Najavljuje li se kakvo iskljucenje gasa Nemackoj ili EU od strane Rusa? Ja koliko cujem Rusi obecavaju uredne isporuke gasa. Zaklinju se u to svaki put. Ni Ukrajini nisu naplatili milijarde dolara koje duguju pa nista.
ShurikSST ::veljko82 ::ShurikSST ::veljko82 ::Ma vazno je da se ustanak odrzi do zime. Da bi tada moglo da se pregovara.A civili su tu kolatelarna steta i niko se ne streca previse oko njih.
Dozvoli Veljko, sta ce to da se desi zimi? Sta to ocekujemo zimus?Pa gasnu krizu.Onda ce Rusi sve vojne poraze da nadoknade pregovorima.Tako kazu podrzavaoci sadasnje ruske politike.
Hmmm, gasna kriza? A koja je to? Najavljuje li se kakvo iskljucenje gasa Nemackoj ili EU od strane Rusa? Ja koliko cujem Rusi obecavaju uredne isporuke gasa. Zaklinju se u to svaki put. Ni Ukrajini nisu naplatili milijarde dolara koje duguju pa nista.
Kakve se to gasna kriza ocekuje?Ma to oni forme radi pricaju.U decembru ce kada bude stvarna zima da zaprete prekidom isporuka.Pa ce svi da sednu i lepo se dogovore.Mislim da je to ruski plan.Neki to kazu visa politika,pametna taktika i tako to.
Itar tas kaze osim su 25 opolcenci imaju/su zarobili i dva pvo topa koje su vec poslali na front. Na kraju texta kaze da su u slavjansku svi muskarci ispod 35 uhapseni,..
People’s militias in south-east Ukraine seize assault plane,anti-aircraft guns
World July 07, 21:05 UTC+4
Earlier on Monday, the militia fighters were forced to retreat from Sloviansk, surrendering the town to the Ukrainian army
Ukrainian law enforcers shell south-eastern Luhansk
DONETSK/LUHANSK, July 07. /ITAR-TASS/. The self-defense forces of south-east Ukraine will now have its own assault aviation and anti-aircraft guns seized from the Ukrainian army.
Igor Plotnitsky, the defense minister of the self-proclaimed Luhansk People’s Republic, said on Monday that the self-defense forces now had a Su-25 assault plane at their disposal.
“We seized a Su-25 plane from the Ukrainian army when it was making an emergency landing. It will be ready to go into battle again after minor repairs. The army of the Luhansk People’s Republic has got its own aviation,” Plotnitsky noted. He did not clarify where exactly the aircraft had been seized or from where it was going to take off after the repairs.
The Su-25 Frogfoot is an armored all-weather subsonic assault aircraft meant for supporting land troops day and night. The Su-25s have been operated since 1981.
In the meantime, anti-aircraft artillery guns have come into service with the army of the Donetsk People’s Republic. The residents of Donetsk said on Monday that they saw two trucks with fighters armed with anti-aircraft guns leaving in the direction of Karlivka village, the Petrovsky district, 20km away from Donetsk, a line of resistance with the Ukrainian army is running. People’s militias have set up checkpoints at all exits and entrances to Donetsk.
“It is possible to go in and out of the city. Checkpoints have been set up at all transportation arteries. However, they are not hindering the movement by civilians, including cars,” the press service of the self-proclaimed Donetsk People’s Republic told ITAR-TASS on Monday.
Tsarev: all young men aged 25-35 being arrested in Slavyansk
“Shops, banks, enterprises and social service institutions are working in the routine mode. The situation in the city is calm. There is no panic in Donetsk. Many people who wanted to leave the city for fear of military hostilities in its territory have decided to stay,” the press service went on to say.
Earlier on Monday, the militia fighters were forced to retreat from Sloviansk, surrendering the town to the Ukrainian army.
According to the press service of the Donetsk People’s Republic, all men under 35 have been arrested in Sloviansk.
