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LRSV modularni Oganj

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Sutra počinje ispitivanje raketne višecevne artiljerije
Citat:Na Jastrepcu će sutra početi ispitivanje višecevnog modularnog lansera raketa LRSVM, kalibra 122 i 128 milimetara, koje je proizveo kruševački IMK "14.oktobar" u saradnji sa Vojno-tehničkim institutom (VTI) za potrebe Ministarstva odbrane.





http://www.tanjug.rs/videodet.aspx?galID=100290&videoID=578329#



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proka89 ::Sutra počinje ispitivanje raketne višecevne artiljerije
Citat:Na Jastrepcu će sutra početi ispitivanje višecevnog modularnog lansera raketa LRSVM, kalibra 122 i 128 milimetara, koje je proizveo kruševački IMK "14.oktobar" u saradnji sa Vojno-tehničkim institutom (VTI) za potrebe Ministarstva odbrane.





http://www.tanjug.rs/videodet.aspx?galID=100290&videoID=578329#


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Tekst o LRSVM Morava, ima nekih zanimljivih detalja:

janes.com/article/25313/serbia-s-lrsvm-morava-mrl-begins-final-tests

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Serbia's LRSVM Morava MRL begins final tests

Miroslav Gyürösi, Bratislava - IHS Jane's Missiles & Rockets
30 July 2013


This LRSVM Morava launch vehicle is armed with two 12-round pods of 128 mm Oganj rockets. Source: Miroslav Gyürösi

Development of Serbia's new LRSVM (Lanser Raketni Vishecevni Samokhodni Modularni) Morava modular multiple rocket launcher (MRL) is almost complete. Initial trials of the system vehicles started at the Jastrepac proving ground on 22 July, with the first 10 days earmarked mostly for tests of the mechanical, driving, and manoeuvring characteristics.

The first phase of these trials is due to end in August. Further trials are likely to follow and be completed by the end of the year, allowing serial production to begin in 2015.

During the recent Partner 2013 defence exhibition in Belgrade, the VTI (Voyno-Tehnicski Institut) Military-Technical Institute and its partners in the programme showed the latest version of the system's launch vehicle, and a prototype of the system's logistical vehicle. Both are based on the Serbian-made FAP 1118 BS/AV 4x4 truck chassis. An LRSVM Morava battery will consist of four self-propelled launchers and four logistical vehicles.

The self-propelled launcher is produced by FAP (chassis), IMK 14.oktobar (vehicle superstructure), VTI (unspecified automatic subsystems), and EI-Opec (the electronic launching subsystem). The logistical vehicle is produced by FAP (chassis), IMK 14.oktobar (crane) and Prva Petoletka Namenska (pump and hydraulic components). The launching pods are produced by INhrom.

VTI did not give details of the subsystems for which it is responsible, but these are probably electro-mechanical devices used to stabilise the vehicle and aim the rockets.

The self-propelled launcher has a modular design. It features an integrated command-and-control system but can conduct autonomous pre-programmed fire missions. The vehicle's primary navigation system is inertial, with a GPS satellite navigation receiver as the secondary navaid.

According to the VTI Military-Technical Institute, the fire-preparation time is 45 seconds, and the vehicle cam move off 30 seconds after firing its last rocket.

The system can use four different types of rocket:

- The 128 mm Plamen-A, with a range of 8.6 km

- The 128 mm Plamen-D, with a range of 12.6 km

- The 128 mm Oganj, with a range of 22.5 km

- The 122 mm Grad, with a range up to 35 km.

All types of rocket are fired from the appropriate pattern of multitube launch pod, and the mounting frame on the launch vehicle can carry two pods for the same calibre of rocket. The Plamen pod has 16 launch tubes, while the Oganj and Grad pods have 12 tubes.

The launcher and logistic vehicles shown at the exhibition featured redesigned launch pods for all rocket types. These had new patterns of launch tubes, and a box-like cover with a revised shape.

The development of suitable tubes was undertaken by the KOL-15N Inzenjering in Belgrade, while INhrom was responsible for serial production.

The first functional model of the new launcher tubes was made from ordinary steel. A block of four tubes was tested in November 2009 using Plamen-S rockets. These were followed in 2010 by long tubes for 128 mm Oganj rockets, and tubes for 122 mm Grad rockets. Both were made from standard steel. Wall thicknesses were 0.6 mm for the Oganj and Grad rockets, and 0.5 mm for the Plamen rockets.

Unfortunately, these steel tubes experienced a corrosion problem, so by the end of 2011 the material had been changed to stainless steel.

In January 2012, INhrom began production of tubes made from 0.6 mm thick stainless steel. Static tests of these began in March 2012 and led to the first firing trials in June of the same year.


The logistic vehicle for the LRSVM Morava MRL is equipped with a crane used to move rocket pods to and from the launch vehicle. (Miroslav Gyürösi)

Firing trials of complete launcher containers incorporating the new stainless steel tubes were conducted in January 2013. They involved the firing of eight 122 mm Grad rockets and five 128 mm Plamen rockets.

(KOL-15 N Inzenjering and INhrom have also collaborated to develop and produce launching tubes for 107 mm calibre rockets. These are made from 0.8 mm thick duraluminium, and weigh only 1.6 kg. The equivalent steel tube weighs 3.4 kg).

The logistic vehicle has a crew of two. It is used to transport rocket pods to the firing position, where it uses its built-in crane to reload the self-propelled launcher. It can carry four pods for Plamen rockets or two pods for Oganj or Grad rockets. The logistic vehicle weighs 1,200 kg when fully loaded, and can tow a trailer with a total weight of up to 5,000 kg.

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Mislim da je do sad bilo samo na sajtu VTI-ja,ispitivanja na terenu...

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Malo bi morali još spustiti lanser (redizajnirati kučište servo motora ili ga uronuti direktno na šasiju) i ojaćati vezu lanser-šasija kamiona čime bi se još smanjilo cimanje lansera kada se ispaljuje salva, dok je kamion ko ukopan što je odlićno.

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Napisano: 23 Nov 2013 17:24

Da i meni se cini da lanseri mnogo osciluju,zato sam i postavio.

Dopuna: 25 Nov 2013 18:32

Ne vidim zaista cime je toliku paznju zasluzilo ono cudo Yugoimporta 2000,itd.Ovaj sistem je zamisljen kao pucka.Ima tu jos sitnih detalja,i mozemo reci da je konacno nesto uradjeno!

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Logisticko vozilo bi trebalo da ima bolji kapacitet, te umesto dva vozila za 4 kontejnera sa oganj ili grad raketama 1 bi trebalo da bolje zavrsi posao ako vec na lanseru nemamo rezevni komplet:




Takodje ne bi bilo lose mozda da ima hidraulicno bocno smicanje kontejenera na lanser sto bi olaksalo manipulaciju tj. pretovar i ubrzalo procese...

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Loes@
Mnogi od tih problema resavace se u hodu(bar mislim da bi trebalo).Ja licno bih apsolutno ovde (za nase potrebe),odstupio od toga da logisticko vozilo bude istog tipa(prohodnosti...itd)i stavio logistiku na veci FAP6x6.

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@MB120

Cak i lanser bi bio pozeljan na 6x6 to bi mu dalo mogucnosti da ima i duze rakete samim tim i vece domete.

Zasto barem 4 kontejnera na logisticko vozilo i bocno izvlacenje kontejnera slicnim principom kako se sada Oganj iz svog kompleta naoruazava?

Prvo evidentno usteda u potrebnom broju logistickih vozila samim tim niza cena sistema.

Drugo na primer ako imamo vise razlicitih bojevih glava(sa minama, eksplozivna, termobaricna) ako vozilo vuce 2 kontejnera i treab da pokrije 3 tipa bojevih glava(neznas koja moze da bude korisnija unapred pre dolaska na teren tj .polozaj i izvidjanja neprijatelja po kome ces dejstvovati tj. koja bolje vrsi svrhu) koliko logistickih vozila nam treba za 3 rakete istog kalibra a razlicite bojeve glave?

Ili za 2 razlicita kalibra - 128 Palmen D i 122 Grad na primer?

Minimalno resenje u pogledu kvalitetne logistike je barem 4 kontejnera na logistickom vozilu gde se prema situaciji pravi izbor.

Zamisl situaciju da na teren treba da izvuces 3 kalibra puta 3 razlicite bojeve glave a u sadasnjoj konfigurtaciji koliko je to logistickih vozila? Znam da je to ekstremna situacija ali moguca je, te samo jedan stepen ispod nje opet imamo problem u broju vozila koje nepotrebno povecavamo i ne samo vozila vec i ljudstvo, potrosnju goriva, hrane, r/d itd...

FAP 1118 je izabran verujem zato sto je jeftiniji kao platforma od 2026 tj. FAP 2228 a moze da stane na njega onako kako su zamislili te ako je to zbog ekonomije tada i broj kontejnera opet zbog ekonomije mora biti veci te nije problem da ide u visinu a 6 tona nosivosti kod 1118 bi trebalo da moze da pokrpi tu tezinu od 4 kontejnera + ostalo(kran i hidraulika) ako ne onda definitivno 6x6...

Posto recimo ces nositi 2 kontejnera sa termobaricnim dole a 2 sa minama gore potrebno je bocno izvlacenje kada se menipulise sa njima, neka izvlaceca hidraulika koja ce da to gura ili da ga iznese bocno(mozda i varijanta unazad) zavrsava posao....A kada bi lanser imao hidrauliku da navuce na sebe kontejnere tada bi to jos islo i brze i preciznije nego rucno sa dizalicama tj. kranom.

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