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Jel zna neko grčki da prevede, da se slučajno ne pozivaju na nas. 
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Registruj se da bi učestvovao u diskusiji. Registrovanim korisnicima se NE prikazuju reklame unutar poruka.
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Poslao: 10 Mar 2019 00:16
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Citat:Self-propelled guns from Serbia were ordered by Cyprus
In response to the continued strengthening of the Turkish occupation forces, the Republic of Cyprus also turned to a move to compensate for the new qualitative data generated in the Greater Arsenal of Armed Forces.
As revealed by the DUROSHIP ALMANAC 2017-2018, Nicosia has placed an order in Serbia for the supply of self-propelled guns to modernize the Artillery, an area in which the National Guard suffers. This is the 155 mm Nora-B52 self-propelled gun with a 52-caliber tube. The gun achieves a maximum range of 32 km with a common missile M107 while with extended range missiles (ERFB-BB) the range increases to 41,850 meters!
Manufacturer of Nora is YugoImport, which since the appearance of the original model has made successive upgrades to improve performance, performance and automation, as well as the level of protection, as it is a wheeled system ( 8×8 ). The system is considered adequate for western standards and has achieved some export success due to reduced costs.
To date, the National Artillery Artillery has minimal self-propelled guns, just two Miles with 24 systems in total, one with a good performance Zuzana and one with a French Mk3F, reduced performance. The bulk consists of trailer guns, which in the modern battlefield are distinguished by a lower degree of survival, due to reduced agility in relation to the motorized.
Turkish invasion forces are continuously reinforced with weapons systems that replace older inferior performance, such as the T155 Firtina, which replaced the outdated M44T. The issue aroused a sensation when the transfer of these firearms to the occupied area became known, but the reinforcement of the artillery, as analyzed exclusively in the relevant tribute, extends to the transport of the T-300 Kasirga Multi-Spray Propeller Systems, each fire unit carrying 4 rockets of 300 mm and 120 km range.
The conclusion is that following the overall modernization of the artillery artillery firearm of the Turkish forces, the Cypriot government's move clearly ensures a partial rather than a comprehensive approach to the issue. Simply put, the Army's incremental elemental reinforcement was realized, based on the operational needs declared by the General Staff of the National Guard.
The enemy still prevails in artillery. In addition, it should not be forgotten that Turkish forces are able to hit the entire territory of free areas with regular Bora 1 ballistic missiles at least 280 kilometers across from Turkish Cypriot coasts.
Full analysis of the military developments in Cyprus, on the pages of the ALMANAC Dude, 2017-2018, in circulation.
Evo na engleskom 
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Poslao: 10 Mar 2019 00:24
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ček sad, ispada da nora može imati domet do 41 km ?
a mi ih imamo samo 6 sa tendencijom povećanja na celih 12
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Poslao: 10 Mar 2019 00:52
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Lazu dusmani! Maksimalan domet po YI je 56km sa M-15 HE ERFB RA/BB projektilom (projektil proizvodi Sloboda Cacak) - info: YI sajt
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Poslao: 10 Mar 2019 11:49
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j22 ::ček sad, ispada da nora može imati domet do 41 km ?
a mi ih imamo samo 6 sa tendencijom povećanja na celih 12
Sta je cudno?
Postoje tri tipa municije za ovakve haubice, klasicni M107 sa dometom 32 km, zatim projektil sa gasogeneratorom dometa 42/44 km i raketizovani projektil dometa preko 50 km.
Projektili su poredjani po ceni ali i preciznosti (osim ako ne kupe raketizovani koji je vodjen sto je jako skupa stvar).
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Poslao: 10 Mar 2019 12:49
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hvala svima, za mene dobre informacije, ovo dodje dalje od orkana, samo još da zažive i jerina 1 i 2 .
al koj djavo nema ovog orudja u VS ?
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Poslao: 10 Mar 2019 14:36
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Zašto nije uvedena Nora:
Nora B52 ima pet članova posade i maksimalnu brzinu paljbe od 4 granate u minuti.
Vučna M84 Nora ima veču brzinu paljbe sa devet članova posade.
Aleksandar ima tri člana posade i maksimalnu brzinu paljbe od 8 granata u minuti.
Dakle dve Nore i deset vojnika ili jedan Aleksandar i tri vojnika za istu vatrenu moć.
Potrebno nam je 180 članova posade za dva diviziona Nora ili 108 članova posade za dva diviziona Aleks sa duplo većoj vatrenoj moći za malo više novca. A nama fali ljudstvo.
Moja laička pretpostavka 
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Poslao: 10 Mar 2019 17:46
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NORA nije ono što VS želi. Tih 6 je samo zakrpa dok se ne završi MGS-25.
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Poslao: 17 Mar 2019 16:15
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Imam neke informacije koje bi mogle biti zanimljive i naovoj temi...
Moja rodjaka radi u Loli i oni su u prvoj fazi razvoja Nore učestvovali... Inače ta rodjaka je glavni tehnolog Lole iz železnika u to vreme bila druga u hijerarhiji rukovodstva(inače veoma iskusan inženjer pravi operativac a ne rukovodilac) Pričala mi da prvu noru kad su napravili do nivoa da može na probno gadjanje... Poslata je u jednom komadu a vraćena u delovima, raspla se u param parčad... Mislili su da odustanu jer su bili sigurni svi da je odličan posao uradjen... To je bilo 2004-5...
Sad po rečima te moje rodjake Nora je gotovo savršeno orudje... Kaže da su cev ispitivali i da je gotovo neuništiva... Nekoliko puta je otpornija na habanje od onoga što je bio prihvatljiv standard... Poredjenja radi nato orudja se rade tako da jedva ispune taj standard... A kaže da uopšte nije bio cilj takva dugotrajnost... Tkodje zatvarač je testiran i procena je da će u svakom slučaju nadživeti cev...
Koliko bi MGS-25 trebalo biti skuplji od B-52?
Predobar je naš Alex 😀😜 prelepo i moćno izgleda...
Samo mi žao što tog novog orudja biti jako malo...
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Poslao: 17 Mar 2019 16:31
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Ako kupe divizion za VS,to bi bilo savršenstvo,koliko ti misliš da će biti,ako ih uopšte bude?
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