Samohodni višecevni raketni sistem 262mm M-87 "Orkan"

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Ako mislite na zadnju sliku upravo sam postavio pitanje u predhodnom postu .. cini mi se da se cifra odnosi na malo preko 61 tone punjenja ?

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U produžetku ide valjda 3-9409, švrakopis ispod počinje sa ge i dalje meni nečitljiv.

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Ma jasno je meni da je to ona jedna cijela serija ( grupa ) koja nedostaje ( 500 raketa ) o tom barutu smo već pisali kad smo brojali koliko je raketa moglo otići iz Pretisa preko Mokrog, dalje .

Po onome kako piše NGR 375 na zatim ti nerazumljivi brojevi bi to trebala biti serija baruta ( 3) godina proizvodnje 94 i šarža .


1994 godine sigurno nije rađeno gorivo za Orkan , nije bilo elemantarnih uvjeta za to , a ni potreba .
tako da taj datum može biti možda neka inventura , ali je onda datum inventure na glupom mjestu.

Da je 91 bilo bi mi još logično , ne znam

Serijski lot baruta je pisan crnim slovima na zelenom boku inhibitora.

Pitanje je gdi je ostatak lota , ili je bilo u proizvodnji škarta pa nisu mogli izgurati 1000 i pride komada.

Dok stignem budem napisao par postova o tehnologiji proizvodnje Nitroglicerinskih Raketnih Baruta , pogotovo ovog -375 za Orkana , pa bude jasno zašto je on jedinstven i nedostižan u svjetskim relacijama.

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Ako sam ovo sve dobro pohvatao ovo sto je na slikama i snimvima kolege Mr. Majevica a tice se raketnog goriva u SPS ( danas Vitezit ) 1993 je bilo 25 tona istog ali sad na slikama od 2009 imamo podatak od preko 60 tona `materijala` za Orkan .

Da li ovo sve potice s pocetka 90-tih ? To bi onda trebao biti materijal za druge 2 serije raketa ( po 1000kom ) za Irak ako uzmemo u racunicu rakete isporucene u Irak 1989 i ono nesto sto je ostalo u Gabeli iz te valjda prve serije ,zatim onaj kontigent od skoro 800 raketa koje je JNA izvukla krajem `91.Treba imati u vidu i ta kolicina od 200 komora i 200 punjenja za R262 koje su nadjene na brodu `Boka Star` 2002 g ...

Pa bilo je toga podosta... mozda da nije bilo nesrecnog rata te rakete ( svih 4000kom ) bi bile proizvedene 1992 /93 najdalje ?

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Citat:са: http://undp.akvoapp.org/en/project/931/update/3394/

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Ta slika bi trebala biti od ranije ..tacnije od 2011 kad je i unisteno 68 R262 u BiH ( poligon Glamocko polje ) .

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Citat:са: http://undp.akvoapp.org/en/project/931/update/3394/

Mozda da je ovo i bilo ali posto uskoro ocekujemo materijal o NGR 375/376 kolege raketas da vidimo koji su to i kakvi su postupci delaboracjie

Citat:Project EXPLODE is ready to take on the remaining complex munitions in the Armed Forces of Bosnia and Herzegovina’s storage. We are fine-tuning ourselves to get engaged in disposal by reflecting back on the previous experiences in disposal of complex weapons systems. The following three steps represent the main framework in which we operate taking a successful example of MLRS (Multiple rocket launch system) type M87 “ORKAN” 262mm we disposed of in 2012:

Disposing of cluster munitions was an obligation that stems from the Convention on Cluster Munitions (CCM); the Ministry of Defense of BiH and UNDP BiH have fulfilled the obligations set out in the Article 3 of the CCM, which was a major milestone for the country. Reflecting back on the earlier tasks and the lessons learned helps us in preparation for the coming challenges in the disposal of high hazardous munitions, rocket systems and other complex weapon systems.

Step number 1: Inspection

Before the disposal process can begin identifying and confirming the item designated for disposal must be done by cross checking technical documentation, assessing markings on the item and its distinctive visual attributes. Depending on the state of the item, the stability of the rocket fuel must be chemically tested to make sure that the weapon is chemically stable for disposal. The inspection tells us, among other things: a) the type and model, b) the condition of the item (including if it is armed or not), c) marking and serial numbers, d) gross weight, and e) the number of components. The information attained through inspection allows for the precise planning of the disposal process, including; transport, tools, and the overall security and safety of the process in the determined facility.

Step number 2: Demilitarization Plan

There are two main methods used for the disposal of munitions: One is OB/OD, Open Burning or Open Detonation, which is used when the item is unsafe to transport or handle. For this a “demolition range” is used to safely dispose of such items based on their specific properties. The second main method of disposal is reverse engineering (demilitarization) of the item. This always takes place in a specialized facility that is equipped with specific tools, appropriate storage and an ammunition processing building to safely proceed with the process. The majority of these facilities have an array of interchangeable tools and processing areas that can service different types of ammunition designated for disposal. Once the method for disposal is determined the items must be transported from the place of storage to the place of disposal. This has to be done if possible in the original cases and cradles that have a custom design to support the item during transport. Before disposal begins, the weapons system will be temporarily stored upon arrival until they are put on the disassembly line.

Step 3: Disposal

The MLRS system is best disposed of by the second method used in disposal; reverse engineering/ demilitarization in combination with open burning and open detonation for certain parts of the system. This process is conducted with pre-determined safety and security procedures that follow precise instructions on how to handle the stages of the reverse engineering process. In disposing of the MLRS system the following is arranged for disposal:

Disassembly line: once out of temporary storage the MLRS will be sent to the disassembly line where; the rocket body and warhead are dissembled, the starter engine is disassembled from the rocket body, the main engine is then disassembled, and the disconnection of other components of the warhead is then sorted for a second state of processing.

Disposal of individual parts: disassembling the warhead is a sub activity done in order to neutralize separate parts of the rocket. The main priority in the case of MLRS is to neutralize the warhead with cluster sub-ammunition. This is done by screwing off the fuse and removing its charges. The cluster sub-munitions is then removed and this sub-munitions is subsequently disposed of by open detonation.

Neutralization of the engine section: The final step in disposing of MLRS is completed by neutralizing the engine section. The entire engine is strapped to a test table whereby all fins and stabilizers are removes. The engine is then ignited to ‘burnout’ the remaining fuel. Once it is verified that there is no more fuel residue the scrap metal is made available for recycling.

Once the processes are finalized and a thorough verification process is conducted the opportunity to engage in new tasks can begin.

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To je ovo ..prvi post na ovoj stranici

http://www.mycity-military.com/Avioni/MIG-21-Fishbed_952.html

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A CIA kaze nema hemijskih b/g u R262

Citat:Taji CEA Depot
Taji CEA Depot is located north of Baghdad and currently no longer accepts incoming munitions as a CEA Depot. This depot contains earth-berm warehouses, roughly 100 of which are intact and roughly 20 damaged or destroyed. Munitions were shipped to this depot from caches within the Baghdad area of Iraq. Taji Depot comprises an area of approximately 5 km by 3 km surrounded by a 6-foot fence topped with several strands of barbed wire and guard towers. Some of the perimeter around the bomb and missile yard also has a 6- to 8-foot high berm, 10 to 20 meters from the fence line. The warehouses comprise most of the area of the depot, with the bomb and missile yard in the southeast corner. Taji Depot is currently under the operational control of EODT.

Munitions of interest were FROG missiles, 262mm rockets, Iraqi Fuel Air Bombs, cluster bombs, and Qa’ Qa’a 250 Incendiary Bombs.
No WMD munitions were found

https://www.cia.gov/library/reports/general-report.....annxH.html