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Poslao: 20 Jan 2015 22:49
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skužio sam sad mi je jasnija razlika 
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Registruj se da bi učestvovao u diskusiji. Registrovanim korisnicima se NE prikazuju reklame unutar poruka.
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Poslao: 21 Jan 2015 00:18
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pein ::koja je razlika između topa i haubice???
meni to dođe nekako na isto
Evo sta kaze Vojna enciklopedija:
Citat:Top , art orudje velike duzine cevi (obicno 30-70 kalibara) i stoga u odnosu na haubicu i merzer istog kalibra ima vecu pocetnu brzinu (700-2000 m/s), veci domet i brisani prostor, vecu preciznost (pri gadjanju vertikalnih ciljeva) i vecu probojnu snagu, ali manje polazne i padne uglove i vecu tezinu.
Citat:Haubica, artiljerijsko orudje namenjeno za ubacno gadjanje (polazni uglovi 20 do 45 stepeni) zbog cega ima kracu cev nego top (12-30 kalibara) nego top koji gadja polozenim putanjama, a duzu nego merzer koji sluzi za vertikalno gadjanje.
U doba olucne artiljerije, to su ti one iz 14-polovine 19 veka, postojala je jasna razlika izmedju topa i haubice. Top je imao duzu i deblju cev i prakticno je gadjao polozenom putanjom, i to najcesce punom kuglom ili kartecom (to je slicno sacmi). Haubice su imale kratku i tanju cev, gadjale pod uglom i cesto koristile granate. Granata je bila metalna kugla sa supljinom ispunjenom barutom i imal je fitilj.
Danas haubice mogu da gadjaju i polozeno, da bi mogle da se brane od tenkova, a i zbog neposredne paljbe, pa su vise haubice-topovi. Nora A je top-haubica, pa ako nju gledas, stvarno nema puno razlike izmedju topa i haubice. A najnovije imaju cevuljage i od 52 kalibara. Tako da je termin top vise rezervisan za orudje kalibra 20 i vise milimetara koji se ugradjuje na vozila i avione, na protiv-avionska artiljerijska orudja, kao i za vucene protiv-tenkovske topove (kao sto je T 12).
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Poslao: 21 Jan 2015 11:59
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Nova Norico haubica-minobacač CS/SH-1 122mm namenjena desantnim jedinicama.
Za dejstvo se hidraulikom spusti na zemlju, odnosno podiže nakon toga na vozilo.
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Poslao: 21 Jan 2015 15:33
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aramis s ::Nova Norico haubica-minobacač CS/SH-1 122mm namenjena desantnim jedinicama.
Za dejstvo se hidraulikom spusti na zemlju, odnosno podiže nakon toga na vozilo.
Ima li malo vise podataka o ovom sistemu?
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Poslao: 21 Jan 2015 16:15
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Po Army Recognition, predstavlja faktički kopiju Nona-K.
+ TTKThe vehicle was developed and designed by the Chinese defence Company Norinco, who is also in charge of the manufacturing.
The CS/SH-1 uses a 4x4 all-terrain chassis with an open-top crew cabin. According to our first analysis, the vehicle can carry a total of 4 four military personnel, who are also the operators for the gun system.
The main armament of the CS/SH-1 is a vehicle-mounted, rifled breech-loading 122mm howitzer/mortar system, which is provided with a vertical sliding breech mechanism. The gun has an elevation range of -4°+80°. The maximum range is 9.5 km when firing the howitzer projectile, 8.5 km when firing the mortar projectile, and 1.2 km when firing the HEAT projectile.
In firing position, the 122mm howitzer is lowered at the rear of the vehicle and two spades are anchored in the ground to increase the stability of the system.
In road position, the 122mm howitzer is mounted at the rear of the vehicle, with the gun stored in the center of the vehicle. The ammunition boxes are stored at the rear of the vehicle.
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Poslao: 21 Jan 2015 16:37
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Jedina razlika između none i ove kineske kopije je kalibar bar iz ovog priloženog :-)
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Poslao: 21 Jan 2015 20:02
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aramis s ::Nova Norico haubica-minobacač CS/SH-1 122mm namenjena desantnim jedinicama.
Za dejstvo se hidraulikom spusti na zemlju, odnosno podiže nakon toga na vozilo.
Jedna od boljih ideja koju sam video u zadnjih 5 godina. Samo da mi je znati vreme pripreme za vatru.
Dopuna: 21 Jan 2015 20:02
aramis s ::Po Army Recognition, predstavlja faktički kopiju Nona-K.
+ TTKThe vehicle was developed and designed by the Chinese defence Company Norinco, who is also in charge of the manufacturing.
The CS/SH-1 uses a 4x4 all-terrain chassis with an open-top crew cabin. According to our first analysis, the vehicle can carry a total of 4 four military personnel, who are also the operators for the gun system.
The main armament of the CS/SH-1 is a vehicle-mounted, rifled breech-loading 122mm howitzer/mortar system, which is provided with a vertical sliding breech mechanism. The gun has an elevation range of -4°+80°. The maximum range is 9.5 km when firing the howitzer projectile, 8.5 km when firing the mortar projectile, and 1.2 km when firing the HEAT projectile.
In firing position, the 122mm howitzer is lowered at the rear of the vehicle and two spades are anchored in the ground to increase the stability of the system.
In road position, the 122mm howitzer is mounted at the rear of the vehicle, with the gun stored in the center of the vehicle. The ammunition boxes are stored at the rear of the vehicle.
Hona-K? Glede na kalibar trebalo bi da se radi o modifikacij haubice D-30. Moguče da su smanjili trzaj drugačijom amortizacijom?
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Poslao: 21 Jan 2015 23:11
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130mm M46 konvertovan na standard M46/86 pa promenjen naziv da zvuci modernije?
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