COIN avioni za "paravojno ratovanje"

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A zašto svi spominju klipne avione, kada oba aviona imaju turbo-elisne motore?

OV-10 Bronco (2xGarrett T76)
EMB 314 Super Tucano (P&W PT6)

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iako je bronco povucen iz upotrebe u sad, zaista bi im bilo bolje da su isli na neku unapredjenu varijantu, koja bi prema performansama bila na nivou super tucana. i da dodam jos jednu prednost, negde sam procitao da je bronco cak imao i oklop. sigurno se ovde ne radi o oklopu kao na a-10 ili apache, ali, nema veze, bolje ista nego nista. cak je i maleni a-37 imao oklop od najlona, koji je vrovatno bio namenjen za "hvatanje" fragmenta. bez obzira, veca masa aviona i snaga, sigurno bi omogucile bolji oklop nego sto je moguce staviti na super tucano, a dva razdvojena motora daju dodatnu sigurnost. cini mise ipak da je fora u tome sto je super tucano gotov i odmah dostupan, dok bronco treba doterivati, a bio bi verovatno i skuplji za nabavku i odrzavanje.

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sebab ::cini mise ipak da je fora u tome sto je super tucano gotov i odmah dostupan, dok bronco treba doterivati, a bio bi verovatno i skuplji za nabavku i odrzavanje.

Pa izgleda da se ovde nekom mnogo žuri ko zna iz kojih razloga a da je alternativu našao u jeftinom, dobrom i već gotovom avionu poput Tucana.

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Ron Jeremy ::
Pa izgleda da se ovde nekom mnogo žuri ko zna iz kojih razloga

to je i meni palo na pamet
al sad kome i za koju namjenu i gdje

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I dok ameri zasedaju o Tucanu, ekvador kupio 24 Tucana - mašala !!!


Citat:Brazil's Embraer Sells Ecuador 24 Super Tucanos

SAO PAULO - March 24, 2009:
Embraer has sold 24 Super Tucano turbo-prop aircraft to the Ecuadoran air force to patrol its border and train pilots, the Brazilian aeronautics giant said Monday.
The company did not disclose the value of the sale. Deliveries of the aircraft were to begin at the end of the year, it said. The Embraer EMB 314 Super Tucano, also named ALX or A-29 is a turboprop aircraft designed for light attack, counter insurgency (COIN) and pilot training missions, incorporating modern avionics and weapons systems. It is currently in service with the air forces of Brazil, and Colombia, and has been ordered by the Chile, Dominican Republic and Ecuadorian Air Force. Embraer has plans to sell it to other countries in Asia and the Middle East. Besides pilot training, it is heavily employed in monitoring operations in the Amazon region.
With the latest deal, Embraer has sold 169 Super Tucanos in the international market. The model is an upgraded version of the Tucano, of which 650 currently are in service in 15 air forces around the world, the company said.
Embraer orders totaled 20.7 billion dollars in the first half of 2008. It is the third largest manufacturer of commercial aircraft in the world after Airbus and Boeing.


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imali su ameri nekoliko zanimljivih projekata:

1. pa-48 enforcer, baziran na p51 mustangu, ali sa turboelisnim motorom...

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2. t-28 trojan i at-28:

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prvi nikad nije nabavljen, a drugi je koriscen u vijetnamu, cak je navodno prvi americki avion koji je oboren u tom ratu.

inace, odlicne vesti za tucano/supertucano. radi se o odlicnom avionu, jeftinijem od pilatusa pc-9, a podjednako efikasnim, evo sada i u coin ulozi. odlicno osmisljen projekat i isto tako dobro plasiran. moze samo da pokaze kako dalje razvijati lastu. samo da sve porudzbine do tada ne pokupe tucano i pc9.

ko zna, mozda avioni ove kategorije uz dodatni oklop, jace motore i vecu nosivost postanu efikasna zamena za jurisnike. stand off naoruzanje (hellfire/brimstone, laserski navodjene rakete tipa nrz i sl.) ce im to bez problema obezbediti...

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Izgleda da ce biti nesto
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By Stephen Trimble

The US Air Force's top officer said today that a "light strike" platform optimized for the irregular warfare mission could be added to the service's inventory of manned fighters.

Such an aircraft could serve both as a basic trainer for the USAF and "partner" air forces, and as an attack platform in operations against terrorists and insurgents, said Gen Norton Schwartz, USAF chief of staff.

"There is a legitimate need to talk about the light strike role and the building partner capacity role, and we certainly intend to have that discussion in the coming months," Schwartz said following a speech on the USAF's role in irregular warfare at the Brookings Institute.

In Vietnam, the USAF operated the Douglas A-1 Skyraider to attack irregular forces known as the Viet Cong, but has since abandoned the use of such manned, propeller-driven aircraft in combat.

However, Schwartz, a former special operations commander, said he plans to launch talks in June with the USAF leadership on the need for a specialized irregular warfare unit.

Schwartz added that the USAF generally wishes to avoid operating single-mission aircraft, and prefers buying platforms with "general purpose", or multi-role capability. A joint basic trainer/light strike fighter may fit Schwartz's description.

The USAF currently operates the Hawker Beechcraft (HBC) T-6A II Texan as the joint primary aircraft training system (JPATS) to qualify all pilots. HBC has also proposed an attack version of the JPATS platform called the AT-6, with a capability to drop precision munitions and carry .50-calibre machine gun pods.

"If we had a primary trainer that is for basic pilot training that could be easily reconfigured into a light strike platform -- and then you would have a cadre of instructors who could sort of make that transition quickly to a building partner capacity role in the same airplane, and the same crew, and perhaps folks who we have arranged to have language skills that's a part of their repertoire -- that is a very attractive way to solve this problem," Schwartz said.
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Negde sam procitao da i Lasta 95 predvidja nosenje naoruzanja,da li neko zna kakvog mogli bi da je prodaju nasi nekim gerilcima?

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Embraer, brazilska fabrika koja sklapa Super Tucano isporučila je stoti primerak ovog veoma uspešnog aviona - e pa svaka čast !

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Po meni, S Tucano je "izmisljen" za nase prostore...Vec sam bio postovao koliko je (po meni) isplatnije uzeti novog Tucana nego se bakcat sa S Galebom MD...a i lasta onda nema nekog velikog smisla...pa jos neki dil da se proba makar sastavljat u UTVI...I ja se probudih...

Dopuna: 28 Maj 2009 14:56