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Poslao: 26 Apr 2011 15:57
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A sta ce Kongu 2 aviona ? Imali su valjda 10-12 MIG-21. Dal' to sad vise ne leti...
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Registruj se da bi učestvovao u diskusiji. Registrovanim korisnicima se NE prikazuju reklame unutar poruka.
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Poslao: 26 Apr 2011 16:57
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"In addition to maintenance and airframes, Paramount/Aerosud offers Mirage upgrade packages, including the Super Mirage upgrade that adds a more powerful Russian SMR 95/RF-33 engine. Other upgrades involve the weapons systems, avionics, oxygen systems etc."
Engleski mi ne ide baš najbolje, pa da pitam:
Da li su ovi Mirage F1AZ sa ruskim motorima, ili je to samo opcija koju nudi Južno Afričko vazduhoplovstvo?
Dopuna: 26 Apr 2011 16:57
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Poslao: 27 Apr 2011 00:48
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Da, poslednju rečenicu uopšte nisam video... 
Dopuna: 27 Apr 2011 0:48
Zna li se možda koliko koštaju F1AZ ili CZ? Vidim da ih JAR prodaju po 2-3 komada... I imaju li oni mogućnost da ih temeljno remontuju ili ne? Mislim to su stare letelice i ako Francuzi odbiju da ih remontuju (a to se lako može desiti ovim "novim" korisnicima) mogu li ih servisirati u JAR?
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Poslao: 27 Apr 2011 01:05
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Francuski Mirage F1CR u vazduhoplovnoj bazi Reims
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Poslao: 27 Apr 2011 01:33
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"The upgrade:
A big advantage of Russian equipment is price and the Russians delivered two RD-33 Klimov engines for installation in an F1 AZ and an F1 CZ. In exchange, a Mirage F1 CZ no 214 was flown to Russia for the fitment and feasibility study of the Russian engine upgrade. The project was therefore researched both in Russia and South Africa at the same time and this reduced the project turn around time. Most of the interfacing and ground tuning of the engine was carried out in Moscow by the Mikoyan and Klimov design bureau. Details were regularly exchanged between the South African and Russian teams to fit the engine also in South Africa.
Local, high technology aerospace company, Aerosud, carried out the Russian engine upgrade. The engine was lengthened and fitted with a new gearbox and designated SMR-95. The AZ converted was No 216 easily distinguished with the longer afterburner section. Initial tests were flown by Rick Culpan of Atlas (DENEL) aviation, during 1994. Later that same year Maj Viktor Parkhomento of the Russian Air Force attended the F1 AZ conversion course and went solo on a SAAF F1 AZ. The other engine delivered was installed in a Cheetah D no 847, see Cheetah KB. The results were quite surprising, although the new engine only offered 10% more thrust; it was 350kg lighter, but at the same time consuming far less fuel.The performance achieved was very favourable with far less fuel consumption and it seemed that all the F1s would receive the upgrade, with the Cheetahs upgraded at a later date. No 216 was also displayed at SAAF 75 with a distinctive non-French sound. During this time the aircraft received the name "Super Mirage F1 AZ". Although the Mirage F1 was initially known as the "Super Mirage" in France. However, with South Africa entering the international arena once again after the new Government came to power in SA, the arms embargo was scrapped against SA. The SAAF therefore decided to cancel the Russian engine and the new AZ avionics upgrade and rather purchase new fighter aircraft. The Russian engines were removed and both the Super F1 AZ no 216 and Cheetah D no 847 were placed on static exhibit at the SAAF Museum Swartkops. Since then all the F1s have been withdrawn from SAAF service and offered for sale."
E ovde je sve objašnjeno u vezi ugradnje ruskih motora. Znači ugradnja na F1AZ izvršena u Rusiji, na Cheetah D u JAR. Dalje se kaže da su motori kasnije uklonjeni, a ova dva primerka aviona, čuvaju se u muzeju.
Interesantno je kolika su poboljšanja ostvarena sa ruskim motorima.
http://newsite.ipmssa.za.org/content/view/149/28/1/11/
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Poslao: 27 Apr 2011 09:37
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bila je i verzija f-1e sa snecma m53 sa m2000 - opaka masina, izgubila od f16 u "poslu veka".
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Poslao: 28 Apr 2011 15:47
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Evo kako je to bilo, na takmičenju za poso stoleća učestvovali su švedski Viggen JA-37E, američki YF-16 Falkon i franscuski Miraž F.1E (motor M.53) dana 14.janura 1975. na aerodromu Le Burget , Švećani otpadaju u prvom krugu zbog cene, ostaju ova dva. YF-16 strada na demonstracionom letu. I sad kad su svi očekivali da će Miraž pobediti, amerikanci pod hitno dovlače drugi svoj YF-16 (takoreći sa proizvodne trake) preletom preko okeana, 4 puta dopunjavan u toku leta, i izvode isti zadivljujući program. Iako skuplji odnosi pobedu, koja se materijalizuje 7.juna potpisivanjem ugovora o kupovini F-16A od strane Belgije (102 aviona) , a kasnije su sledili ostali...
Pobednik i pobeđeni
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