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Dassault Rafale

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Verovatno UAE. Libija kupuje Ruske avione.



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Da li se dobro secam ali mislim da je Rafal usao u upotrebu pre EF-a,tj mislim da su prvu seriju Rafala zavrsili pre ostatka Evrope?



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Nisam siguran da je svega 68 aviona proizvedeno,pa to je malo za jednu dekadu.Opet kazem da ne vidim neku izvoznu sansu za ovaj avion.Toliki broj aviona za 13 milijardi dolara,a za njih proizvedeni.Sta tek onda da ocekuju potencijalni kupci.

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I dalje neizvesno u Brazilu mada su mnogi ubedjeni da ce novi avioni biti Rafali.Naime, odluka, iako ne jos dovoljno cvrsta, je bazirana na tecnickim karakteristikama ovog aviona.
U sledecem tekstu se nalazi dosta zanimljivih i korisnih informacija.

Arrow http://www.administradores.com.br/informe-se/artig.....nte/45865/
(na engleskom)

Citat:Defense selects the Rafale and the final decision will be for the president


Administratores.com.br, June 23

After much speculation, the Ministry of Defence decided to pick the Rafale fighter, made in France, to join the Brazilian Air Defense.

The decision was based only on technical issues.

President Luiz Inacio Lula Da Silva should convene the National Defense Council to discuss the matter. An explanatory memorandum of about 40 pages will be signed by Defence Minister Nelson Jobim, and the commanders of the Air Force, Brigadier Juniti Saito, and Navy, Admiral Moura Neto, confirms the choice. The document is divided between the positives and negatives of each of the three finalists aircraft - the Rafale (Dassault), the Gripen NG (Saab) and the F-18 (Boeing).

Each paragraph refers to documents prepared by the Air Force and the Navy. The Navy was consulted aiming at the aircraft carriers of 50 tons [50000?] to be built in the future.

It was also ensured the participation of Embraer in all stages of the project. In addition, the company is negotiating with France the development and sale of KC-390 military cargo.

In December last year, the Air Force delivered a report that put the F-18 as the winner rather than the Gripen, as speculated. Nelson Jobim ordered FAB to remake the document to adjust it to the National Defense Strategy (END). The FAB were using the same criteria as for FX1, which was canceled at the beginning of Lula's first term in 2003. At that time, the cost of maintenance, the unit price of the plane and the commercial offset package were the items which had higher scores. This time, technology transfer worth 40%. At the end of Fernando Henrique, it was 9%.

The Gripen NG has a better assessment on the transfer of technology, but lost many points on other items and was considered a high risk project. In practice, the Swede plane had only good evaluation at the beginning of the evaluation process.

The Rafale, on its side, was only bad on price. The Gripen flight hours is estimated between $ 7 and $ 8000. Saab has promised that he would be at $ 3000.
If the decision is confirmed, Saab is in trouble because the Gripen NG is the only enterprise project along with the modernization of the C and D versions of the same plane. Even Sweden has not purchased the plane and will only do it if there is a deal with Brazil. Over 100 units of the Rafale are already delivered and another 180 are ordered . The aircraft is well evaluated in the UAE and Switzerland. The Boeing F-18 Super Hornet is riding high in India.
Analysis (Marcelo Rech)

The fact that the Ministry of Defence has chosen the Rafale does not mean that the process is completed or will be confirmed by President Lula. There is an election in the near future and would not be a surprise if the decision will stay for the next administration.

The choice was technical.

The government believes the strategic alliance with France can compensate the fact that the Rafale is the most expensive among the three finalists. Embraer also gained a great deal. Gripen elected , it would just participate in the project. With the Rafale, it [Embraer] will be leading the process. The company also involves the development and commercialization of the KC-390 freighter in the business.

The United States could not, by law, closing a deal to buy the Super Tucano in return for selling the F-18, as speculated recently.

Jobim called for changes because he doesn't accept a off-the-shell purchase, as I said several times in public hearings held in Congress. He wants the industrialization of Defense and the field of technology in Brazil. And he believes it will be possible with the election of Rafale.

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Konacno nesto pravo! Citiracu te delove ponovo:
Citat:The Gripen NG has a better assessment on the transfer of technology, but lost many points on other items and was considered a high risk project.
Citat:The Rafale, on its side, was only bad on price. The Gripen flight hours is estimated between $ 7 and $ 8000. Saab has promised that he would be at $ 3000.
Pitanje je sta oni navode za tih 3000$. Secam se da su za F-16 navodili valjda 3500 ili 4500 $, ali zato ukupna cena sa remontima i MLU po avionu izadje 3 do 4 puta toliko

A mi brinemo da li ce MiG preziveti sa njihovim MiG-29K/M, 35, SKAT i programima modernizacije.

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Interesantni podaci koje si izneo.Kako ih samo hvatas,bukvalno po objavljivanju.Znaci brazilci ce ga ipak uzeti.

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Thales ce uskoro dostaviti AESA radar...
http://www.defensenews.com/story.php?i=4697061&c=EUR&s=AIR

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Od prvog jula, Rafal spreman za nuklearnu misiju



Citat:French Air Force Rafales Go Nuclear

Posted by Robert Wall at 7/6/2010 4:07 AM CDT

One July 1, the French air force's Rafale strike fighter fleet was declared operationally ready in the nuclear strike mission.
The Rafale carries the MBDA ASMP-A missile for that purpose. The mission is assigned to the 1/91 fighter squadron at the Saint-Dizier base.

The development of the ramjet-powered ASMP-A has not been trouble-free, but French air force chief of staff Gen. Jean-Paul Palomeros says the weapon is meeting performance demands. And, he notes, it is the first time the country has fielded such a nuclear weapon without an actual nuclear test. (As far as is known, France is the first nation to accomplish this feat.)

The Rafale will supersede the Mirage 2000N in the nuclear role.

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Sjajan video!!!! Ziveli !Kako samo lepo grmi,vidi se da ima veliku rezervu snage uz to kako brzo menja pravac,svaka cast....Meni bolji avion EF-a....

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