Lockheed F-117A Nighthawk

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Dzabe ja pricam. Pa ako je avion povucen, nece sigurno da rade redovnu obuku na njemu. Kao sto sam napisao lete povremeno i pale se motori sto je redovna procedura kada se neki avion cuva u rezervi. Koliko ih se tacno cuva, ne znam, nisam obilazio hangare....

Postojao je i podatak da je potrebno oko 90 do 120 dana da se vrate u redovnu upotrebu ukljucujuci i doobuku ljudi.
Posto od povlacenja pa do danas realno nije bilo velike potrebe za angazovanjem ovakvog tipa (sva dejstva su se svodila na gadjanja talibana), a F-35 ce ga uskoro zameniti, verovatno ga necemo vise videti u nekom dejstvu - ide polako u zasluzenu penziju.

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F-35 ne moze da menja F-117 cak ni po tipu oruzja koje moze da nosi...

120 dana za doobuku? to je nerealno...

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Doobuka, mada mislim da se odnosi na vracanje u trenaz ljudi koji su ga leteli. Svakako vrlo klimav podatak, pitanje koliko je tacan.

F-35 kao sto znas guraju da menja sve i svasta pa i jedan A-10 sto je opet nerealno. Ali videcemo.

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Prema dostupnim podacima, zadnji pilot koji je prosao obuku za F-117 stupio je na duznost 1998.

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Hektor ::Ne secam se da je to neko rekao.... obarali su i druge avione pa ih zbog toga nisu povlacili iz upotrebe. A sto se tice povlacenja, ta odluka je doneta dosta pre 2008... ali su naravno gledali da istrose preostale resurse.

Ko se zainteresuje moze naci podatke iz kojih na posredan nacin moze da se zakljuci kako je to teklo. Naime, svi piloti F-117a imali su kod ime "Bandit" uz broj koji je oznacavao redosled prvog obavljenog leta (npr Bandit 38 je pilot koji je 38. po redu obavio let na F-117a).
http://www.ais.org/~schnars/aero/bandits.htm nepotpun spisak
Kada se ovaj podatak ukrsti sa datumom stupanja u sluzbu pilota pod najvecim brojevima, dobije se datum od kada vise nije vrsena obuka pilota za ovaj avion, a to je mnogo pre 2008. godine. Vec tada, F-117 je bio otpisan, ali niko lud ne povlaci sredstvo dok ga ne izraubuje do kraja.

Bilo je 558 pilota.

Tekst o obuci iz 2003 http://www.f-117a.com/Training.html

Samo je u to vreme 1999. izvrseno prepakivanje

Citat:In early 1999, the 49th TS was deactivated, and the 7th FS became the 7th Combat Training Squadron (CTS). In addition to the previous duties of initial F-117A pilot certification, the 7th picked up the academic training for the F-117A. The 9 F-117A's assigned to the 7th FS were transfered to the 9th FS and the 9th's PAA was increased from 18 aircraft to 24 aircraft. The 15 A/T-38's remained assigned to the 7th CTS.

Obuka je trajala sve do 2005. kada je ugasena jedinica za obuku. Pa niti je neko davno prekinuo obuku i odredio da se avion posalje na groblje niti su izrubovani, vec je objasnjeno da su ostali u skladistu.

I sedma eskadrila je presla na F-22

Citat:In June 1999 the 7th took over the pilot transition training mission (LIFT) to the F-117A and the T-38 Talon trainers, being re-designated as the 7th Combat Training Squadron. The 7th became the mainstay of developing combat capability for the F-117, with its T-38s providing both transition training as well as dissimilar air combat training as "aggressors" against the Nighthawk. The training mission with the stealth fighters continued until 2005 when it was announced by the Air Force that the Nighthawk would be retired in favor of the F-22A Raptor stealth superiority fighter.
Citat:
The inactivation of the 7th, however, was brief as it was re-activated on 15 May 2008 as the 7th Fighter Squadron, and equipped with the F-22A Raptor.The 7th, was the first of two F-22 squadrons to be activated at Holloman. The squadron was equipped with 18 F-22s transferred from the 3d Wing at Elmendorf AFB, Alaska, the last aircraft being received in late 2009.

Test eskadrila je ugasena 2008.

Citat:After more than 27 years and 8,000 flight test hours, the 410th Flight Test Squadron has finally closed its historic chapter during an inactivation ceremony Aug. 1 at the U.S. Air Force Plant 42 in Palmdale, Calif.

The 410th FLTS was responsible for performing flight test missions for the F-117 Nighthawk -- the world's first operational aircraft designed to exploit low-observable stealth technology.

http://www.edwards.af.mil/news/story.asp?id=123109357

Citat:120 dana za doobuku? to je nerealno...

12 nedelja je bio kurs, sa iskusnim pilotima sa drugih aviona doduse.

Hektor ::Mercury
F-35 ne moze da menja F-117 cak ni po tipu oruzja koje moze da nosi...

Moze, i to je vec receno.

F-35 u unustrasnjim spremnicima nosi 2 bombe od 2000 funti, iste velicine kao i F-117. Laserski vodjena GBU-27 je samo zamenjena sa GPS/INS vodjenom GBU-31, iste velicine i cak i sa istom glavom BLU-109 za probijanje betona.





Ilustracije radi GBU-31 JDAM od 2000 funti



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Congress appears ready to let the Lockheed F-117A Nighthawk go( 27. april 2016)

Citat:The aircraft was officially retired from service in April 2008, but Congress demanded that all aircraft mothballed from 30 September 2006 onward be maintained “in a condition that would allow recall of that aircraft to future service”.

The ghost fleet is now accomodated in special climate-controlled hangars at the Tonopah Test Range at Nellis AFB, Nevada – the location dubbed Area 51. There have been dozens of reported sightings and pictures of the aircraft flying since 2008, including sightings of an aircraft being refuelled in flight.

https://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/congres.....ni-424690/

Citat:It was originally stated that the entire F-117A fleet, minus one pre-production example which was scrapped as an experiment at Plant 42 in Palmdale, CA, would be put into regenerative storage at the F-117′s original operational home, desolate Tonopah Test Range Air Base in south central Nevada. The stored aircraft's systems would be "mummified" and their wings would be removed so that up to five aircraft could fit into a single hangar which once housed two of the jets during their early operational heyday. Although there were murmurs about a handful of F-117s being kept in flying condition, the USAF has not addressed exactly how many of the black jets would be kept in such a state, and more importantly, why they would be kept in a flyable condition in the first place.

http://foxtrotalpha.jalopnik.com/why-is-the-retire.....1544383008

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Trebao bi da dobije i HVPW raketu.

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F-35 ne moze da nosi ista ubojna sredstva kao F-117 i ne znam sta je tu sporno? U spremnik F-35 ne moze da stane GBU-27, a GBU-27 i GBU-31 nije isto. Ja dalje nisam komentarisao. Ako nesto treba precizno pogoditi, izbor ce uvek biti GBU-27 pre nego GBU-31. Prednost GBU-31 je sto moze da se koristi i kada meteo uslovi nisu dobri, ali u svakom slucaju u pitanju nisu ista sredstva....

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U razvoju je ...bice kad bude i ako bude.

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https://theaviationist.com/2016/09/23/watch-two-f-.....etirement/

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http://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/4729/the-toxi.....outrageous

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Reagan offered to share F-117 technology with Britain

Citat:In a top secret personal message, on which someone wrote in faint pencil “STEALTH”, an enthused prime minister wrote back after the secret meeting: “Dear Ron, I was immensely impressed by your splendid achievement: three cheers for America!

“I was also very touched by the generosity of the offer of participation which [Cap] brought. It brings home once again who our real friends are … I am so much looking forward to seeing you in Tokyo. With warmest best wishes, yours sincerely, Margaret.”

The offer of transatlantic cooperation on Stealth technology – which disguises an aircraft’s presence from radar detection – was one the MoD declined to take up.

An MoD letter in December 1986 to Charles Powell, the prime minister’s foreign affairs adviser, about Project Moonflower informed him that “Mr Weinberger has offered us a chance to purchase the current US aircraft but we have replied that we would not wish to actually buy hardware while the programme remains strictly black [secret].

Keep the French in the dark: Thatcher's secret push for US military technology

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/dec/30/m.....top-secret