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Nego, jedan pilot leti dvoseda na dezurstvu. Prvi put vidim to, pretpostavljam da je samo za demonstraciju?
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Zasto je uopste dezuran dvosed koji nema radar a ne dva jednoseda?
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Poslao: 03 Jan 2018 00:46
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- ja nesum radijo, ja sam neki veliki dr.mr.
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Ide u paru sa jednosedom, a ulogu navodjenja raketa ce vrsiti jednosed na oba aviona, tako da kad je ispravan samo jedan jednosed, dvosed moze da bude u pari!
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Poslao: 03 Jan 2018 01:07
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@mushroom,
Oba aviona su naoruzana IC raketama koje se samonavode nakon lansiranja. Da bi se izvrsio zahvat koristi se odredjeni borbeni rezim, a dvosed moze da otkrije cilj i pomocu KOLSa posto radar ne poseduje. Tako da je sposoban da sam pronadje i gadja cilj iako nema radar, jer nosi IC rakete. (Mada je za neko trazenje neprijatelja u VaPu gotovo slep jer je domet KOLSa oko 15ak km)
Navodjenje, odnosno slanje informacije o cilju sa jednoseda na dvosed nije moguce ni u jednoj kombinaciji.
Ono sto jeste realno je da jednosed posto ima radar, otkrije cilj na vecoj daljini i da ga dvosed prati u presretanju do vizuelnog uocavanja gde moze i sam dejstvovati.
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Poslao: 03 Jan 2018 10:11
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Moze da ga navodi i radar sa zemlje. Uostalom Mig-21 koji je godinama koriscen u ratnom vazduhoplovstvu za presretanje uprkos tome sto ima radar nije u stanju otkriti cilj na bitno vecoj daljini.
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Mercury ::@mushroom,
Oba aviona su naoruzana IC raketama koje se samonavode nakon lansiranja. Da bi se izvrsio zahvat koristi se odredjeni borbeni rezim, a dvosed moze da otkrije cilj i pomocu KOLSa posto radar ne poseduje. Tako da je sposoban da sam pronadje i gadja cilj iako nema radar, jer nosi IC rakete. (Mada je za neko trazenje neprijatelja u VaPu gotovo slep jer je domet KOLSa oko 15ak km)
Navodjenje, odnosno slanje informacije o cilju sa jednoseda na dvosed nije moguce ni u jednoj kombinaciji.
Ono sto jeste realno je da jednosed posto ima radar, otkrije cilj na vecoj daljini i da ga dvosed prati u presretanju do vizuelnog uocavanja gde moze i sam dejstvovati.
Samo da dodam ...
Daljine otkrivanja VC-a sa KOLS se krecu 10-25 km ,zavisno od rakursa i ostalih parametara .
https://www.mycity-military.com/slika.php?slika=13.....8%2095.jpg
Citat:В состав ОЭПС-29 входит квантовая оптико-локационная станция КОЛС (`23С`), состоящая из теплопеленгатора и лазерного дальномера, и нашлемная система целеуказания `Щель-ЗУМ` (Щель-ЗУМ-1). Оптико-локационная станция обеспечивает более точное, чем РЛС, измерение угловых координат воздушной цели и определение дальности до нее. Поиск, обнаружение и угловое сопровождение обладающей тепловым контрастом воздушной цели производится тепло-пеленгатором, а вычисление дальности до цели - лазерным дальномером. Поскольку теплопеленгатор является пассивным средством, не излучающим энергию в пространство, ОЭПС позволяет истребителю скрытно выходить в атаку в режиме `радиомолчания` (с выключенной РЛС). Зона обзора воздушного пространства теплопеленгатором КОЛС в режиме поиска цели составляет 30° по азимуту и 15° по углу места, длительность одного цикла обзора 3.5 с (при ограничении поля обзора по азимуту 15° соответственно 2 с), максимальная угловая скорость автосопровождения цели 30°/с. Дальность обнаружения теплопеленгатором воздушной цели типа `истребитель` в задней полусфере 15 км, дальность устойчивого сопровождения 12 км, дальность действия лазерного дальномера 200-6500 м.
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Povodom snimka kojeg je `Kaplar` postavio na temi B-2 ....
https://www.mycity-military.com/Avioni/Northrop-Gr.....l#p2027512
Citat:Preschener MiG-29 "shoots" B-2 Spirit (Stealth) "off"
I have received an email with the following content that I would like to share with you:
»In the late 1980s, the American company" Northrop "developed a strategic bomber that was not intended for enemy air defense. He received the designation B-2. For the US Air Force 133 machines were provided for a total of 36.6 billion dollars.
Excerpt from the book " The Air Sword of Russia " by Valeriy Chairyusov published by Young Guard Moscow, ISBN 5-235-02887-2:
"... were earmarked for the complete replacement of the B-52 bombers. But after the unification of Germany, the American Air Force was given the opportunity to get acquainted with the fourth generation of Soviet fighters, the MiG 29. A small number of these machines were in the inventory of the air forces of the GDR. The leadership of the Luftwaffe, its new owner, gave the allies two aircraft, one for NASA and the other for the US Air Force.
The testing of these airplanes, which began under the eyes of the press, who wrote only about the end of the "cold" war, about the beginning of an era of trust, about perestroika and the "Russian miracle", was quickly declared a classified document. The press reported on the excellent maneuverability, noting that they would not match the American pattern in armament and electronic equipment, but that the electronics were outdated.
It was impossible to keep the secret. Test pilot Larry Nilsen, who participated in the trial program, told Robert F. Dorre that the MiG 29's radar even picked up the B-2 against the background of the terrain. In his opinion, one can assume that the on-board radars of the MiG 31 or SU 27 are also able to conceive such a target and certainly still on longer distances. Nilsen added that the crews of the B-2 had a good chance of eluding an attack, but he did not explain how. It also remained unclear whether the weapon control system of the MiG 29 was tested. But even without these checks the image of the stealth bombers scratched. With the news leaked into the press, a storm of indignation in the mass media, directed at the government and the Pentagon, "wasted taxpayers' money on unjustified projects," "Give us our money back!" The newspapers demanded. - 20% of the funds spent on the stealth bomber are enough to eliminate all the consequences of abortions! "" We need new unemployment benefits but no new bombers! ".
http://ddr-luftwaffe.blogspot.ba/2008/01/preschene.....pirit.html
Ne zaboravimo da je nisanski radar tj radar za navodjenje raketa u sastavu RS PVO `Neva-M` takodje centimetarski ( u vezi sa pricom oko gadjanja i obaranja B-2 od strane posade `Nevasa ` u noci 20 maja 1999g )
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