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Uhhhh kakva vest !!!
(jedino ako i ovo nije prvoaprilska zaj**** kao sa Hotelihelikopterom Mi-12)
Sirija bi uskoro trebala da dobije MiG-31E (E-Eksport) i unapređene verzije MiG-29M/M2
Citat:
Syria Getting MiG-31E Jet Fighters, Pentagon Source Claims
(Source: Forecast International; issued March 30, 2009)
WASHINGTON --- In testimony to the U.S. Senate, outgoing head of the Defense Intelligence Agency Lt. Gen. Michael Maples stated that Syria is expected to receive advanced MiG-31Es from Russia. Following a visit to Moscow by Syrian President Bashar Assad in December 2006, reports from the Russian press announced a deal for the aircraft but were quickly denied by the Kremlin and state arms-trader Rosoboronexport.
The reported deal also included sales of MiG-29s and Yak-130 jet trainers to Damascus. The Syrian Air Force - built upon Soviet-legacy and Russian-build aircraft - is obsolete and based around badly aged MiG-21, MiG-23, and MiG-29 squadrons.
Despite Russia's previous denial of the deal, Maples stated that the MiG-31Es will be delivered to Damascus soon, along with MiG-29M/M2 fighters. Maples also testified that Syria remains focused on upgrading its missile, rocket, anti-tank, aircraft, and air-defense inventories.
http://www.defense-aerospace.com/articles-view/rel.....chief.html
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Poslao: 21 Maj 2009 11:17
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- Toni
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Izgleda da nece biti nista od ovoga ili ce bar biti odlozeno na duze vreme.
Citat:MOSCOW, May 20 (RIA Novosti) - Russia has put on a hold a contract to deliver MiG-31E Foxhound interceptor-fighters to Syria, a Russian business daily reported on Wednesday, citing defense-industry sources.
According to Kommersant, the $400-500 million contract for the delivery of eight MiG-31E aircraft was signed in 2007. Since production of MiG-31E's had stopped in 1994, Syria was to receive retrofitted aircraft from Russia's Air Force reserves.
There has been no official comment on the decision to freeze the contract, but an industry source quoted by the daily said the contract was terminated due to Damascus's financial problems.
In the winter of 2005, Russia forgave 70% of Syria's debt, which at the time stood at $13.4 billion. After that Damascus still owed Moscow $3.6 billion.
Later in the year, Russia resumed military cooperation with Syria, delivering, in particular, Strelets surface-to-air missile systems.
Earlier this month, some Russian and foreign media reported Belarus was planning to sell S-300 surface-to-air missiles and Iskander tactical missile systems to Iran, and said that Tehran had arranged to transfer some of the systems to Syria. However, the Belarusian president denied the country had any plans to sell weapons to Syria or Iran.
http://en.rian.ru/russia/20090520/155048033.html
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Poslao: 22 Maj 2009 17:18
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- Danko SVIK VRS
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MiG-31 o njemu je već sve rečeno. Sirija neće dobiti nikakve verzije ovog lovca, jer su Rusi odustali od njegovog izvoza. Tako da ja smatram da je to sirijska propaganda.
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Poslao: 22 Maj 2009 17:24
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SyAAF nikada nece dobiti najmoderniju borbenu avijaciju od Rusa. Sirijski piloti su rekorderi u prebjezima sa povjerenim im aparatima. Negdje sam procitao tacan spisak letjelica ali koliko se sjecam pored MiG-23ML u Izreal tu je i nekoliko MiG-23ML i MiG-29A u Tursku.
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Poslao: 22 Maj 2009 17:45
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azarakhsh e vidiš kako se mi fino složimo, pročitamo vest, pa potom razmislimo šta je pisac hteo da kaže i onda to debelo analiziramo i eto.
Ma MiG-31 i Sirija zbog Izraela to ne ide. Neće njima Rusi to prodati i to zasigurno.
Pa da im prodaju nastao bi pokolj nad Sirijskim pilotima, jer njima ne treba ništa prodavati - neznaju oni to upotrebljavati. Vidiš šta je bilo 1982.
Ima jedna priča kad smo mi prodali (SFRJ) nekoj afričkoj zemlji PAP-ovke, i ubrzo dođe reklamacija. Šta bi ljudi počeli ginuti od tromblonskih mina tokom ispaljivanja. E onda SSNO pošto smo onda bili uređena država, uputi komisiju i ona utvrdi da oni ispaljuju mine bojevom munucijom. Rekoše naši braći nasvrstanim da za to uz minu dođu i metkići i rešiše problem.
Al Rusi neće moći pomoći Sirijcima.
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Poslao: 22 Maj 2009 18:11
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Verovatno Sirijci nemaju para za tu masinu, a mozda ni Rusi nece jos jedno brukanje svoje ratne tehnike... Koliko goriva guta taj avion, koliko piloti moraju da budu utrenirani, koliko sve to kosta (i sam Rusi prave zestoku selekciju pilota) i onda ga posalju u nemogucu misiju sa relativno losom posadom protiv odlicno organizovanog neprijatelja... MIG-31 je jos uvek avion na glasu, iako nije upotrebljavan u borbi, treba tako i da ostane...
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Poslao: 22 Maj 2009 18:44
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Pa dobro Danko 1982. je bila nesto sasvim drugo.
Tu je bio sraz razlicitih generacija lovackih aviona. F-15A i F-16A plus E-2C sa jedne i MiG-21 i MiG-23MS/MF sa druge. Tu nije ni mogao biti drugaciji epilog zracnog okrsaja mada je i IDF/AF dobio malo po usima ( 7 F-16A) od R-23T sto nisu priznali.
Ne znam da li si imao priliku da vidis skorove zracnih okrsaja izmedju IDF/AF i SyAAF tokom IV arapsko-izraelskog rata kada su MiG-21FL/MF imali 29 zracnih pobjeda. Takodjer su i sa MiG-23Ms 4/74' imali 5 obaranja izraelskih aparata a 29.6.81. sirijski MiG-25P je skinuo ( mada nepotvrdjeno) i jednog F-15A.
Mozda si imao priliku da vidis i fotografije IDF/AF F-15D sa jednim raznijetim krilom kojeg je pilot majstorski prizemljio. E tog orla je rokno sirijski MiG-21bis 9.6.1982. sa R-60.
Imali su sirijci dobrih pilota ali tehnicki su uvijek bili inferiorniji od izraelaca a dosli su na los glas i zbog onih prebjega.
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