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Znaci realno bi bilo ocekivati 24-36 ovih aviona ukupno do kraja 2024?

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Леви мотор нешто "титра" на снимку лета. Јел то до снимка или?

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Srle993 ::Znaci realno bi bilo ocekivati 24-36 ovih aviona ukupno do kraja 2024?

ne.

da se menemo youtube klibajtova.
do sad postoji narudzbina od 76 aviona koja istice 2027 godine. taj ugovor je potpisan 2020 godine.
motor koji bi trebao da ide u njega jos nije gotov, dok nema serijske proizvodnje istog, nece biti ni proizvodnje aviona u vecim brojevima jer jednostavno nema logike.

iz onoga sto citam po nekim drugim forumuma, ovaj avion trenutno nije prioritet dok se ne zavrsi kako treba. nema ni porudzbina sa strane, sto je jos jedan razlog koji mu ne ide trenutno u prilog.
predati serijski dosad: 020-1 (onaj sto je pao) 2021-4, 2022-6, 2023-12 najverovatnije.
dakle, dok ima samo ta jedna narudzbina od 76 komada, i dok ne bude novih narudzbina, pravice ga u ovako malim serijama.
opet, nema smisla nastancati 36 za jednu godinu, pa posle da ti stoji prazna hala do 2027 ako ne bude neke velike narudzbine. a niko nije lud da pravi avione bez narudzbine.

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Citat:Many people are concerned about the question: when will the second stage engine appear on the fifth generation fighter?

When all his tests are fully completed. You understand that motors of this level are not created at the click of a finger. I will not name specific dates, I will only say that the final stage is close.
An important point is that the Su-57 meets all the criteria of the fifth-generation fighter and with a first-stage engine. The main value of this fighter is in its intellectual and information capabilities. It has reduced radar visibility, carries powerful weapons, is able to control unmanned aerial vehicles. To date, the board is, so to speak, filled with intelligent systems. This "stufffincation" provides him with the widest opportunities for detecting and selecting targets, interacting with many other systems. This is the main essence of the Su-57, and it has confirmed its characteristics in combat conditions. I think, in terms of the combination of characteristics and versatility, it is the best fighter in the world.

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Источник: передаваемые ВКС в 2024 году серийные Су-57 получат двигатели второго этапа
Как отметил собеседник агентства, в 2023 году Воздушно-космическим силам уже передали более 10 Су-57 с двигателями первого этапа
МОСКВА, 28 декабря. /ТАСС/. Все серийные истребители Су-57, передаваемые Воздушно-космическим силам (ВКС) России в 2024 году, получат двигатели второго этапа. Об этом ТАСС сообщили два высокопоставленных источника, близких к ВКС России.

"Двигатель второго этапа прошел испытания и готов к эксплуатации", - сказал один из собеседников агентства. Второй источник подтвердил эту информацию и добавил, что "все серийные самолеты пятого поколения Су-57, передаваемые в состав ВКС в 2024 году, получат двигатель пятого поколения".

ТАСС не располагает официальным подтверждением этой информации.

По словам собеседника агентства, в 2023 году уже переданы ВКС более 10 Су-57 с двигателями первого этапа. Они успешно решают задачи в зоне специальной военной операции. "Двигатели первого этапа на уже переданных в ВКС Су-57 менять на новые двигатели не планируется"


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2020-1 (onaj sto je pao) 2021-4, 2022-6, 2023-12 najverovatnije.


2019 - 1 crashed
2020 - 1
2021 - 2
2022 - 6
2023 - 12 ?

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Napisano: 29 Dec 2023 11:23

1 ПОЛК ( ONE SQUADRON)
22 ??

FROM THIS YEAR, 12 EVERY YEAR !
с новим годом

ово горе баш добра вест

Citat:2024 году серийные Су-57 получат двигатели второго этапа
Как отметил собеседник агентства, в 2023 году Воздушно-космическим силам уже передали более 10 Су-57 с двигателями первого этапа
МОСКВА, 28 декабря. /ТАСС/. Все серийные истребители Су-57, передаваемые Воздушно-космическим силам (ВКС) России в 2024 году, получат двигатели второго этапа. Об этом ТАСС сообщили два высокопоставленных источника, близких к ВКС России.

"Двигатель второго этапа прошел испытания и готов к эксплуатации", - сказал один из собеседников агентства. Второй источник подтвердил эту информацию и добавил, что "все серийные самолеты пятого поколения Су-57, передаваемые в состав ВКС в 2024 году, получат двигатель пятого поколения".

ТАСС не располагает официальным подтверждением этой информации.

По словам собеседника агентства, в 2023 году уже переданы ВКС более 10 Су-57 с двигателями первого этапа. Они успешно решают задачи в зоне специальной военной операции. "Двигатели первого этапа на уже переданных в ВКС Су-57 менять на новые двигатели не планируется", - сказал он, пояснив, что даже с двигателем первого этапа Су-57 превосходит по своим характеристикам американский F-35.

Ранее специалисты ОКБ имени А. М. Люльки поясняли, что двигатель первого этапа обеспечивает Су-57 такими характеристиками как сверхманевренность, тяговооруженность, малая заметность. Еще одним преимуществом является плазменная бескислородная система розжига основной и форсажной камер сгорания.

Dopuna: 29 Dec 2023 18:48

Dobre dojde AL-51-FL( TZV IDELIJE 30)
Next Level! New Mass-Produced of Russia Su-57 will be with Stealth Engines

Citat:The insider further mentions that beginning in 2024, all Su-57s rolling off the production line will boast stage two engines, often referred to by their code name “Izdeliye 30”. This engine has been under development and rigorous testing for the past three years. Initially, the engine was dubbed AL-51 and subsequently had an updated version, the AL-51-F1.

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Napisano: 30 Dec 2023 21:10

Мало више о ИЗДЕКИЈЕ 30
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Citat:Везано за нови мотор АЛ-51Ф
''Many people are concerned about the question: when will the second stage engine appear on the fifth generation fighter?
When all his tests are fully completed. You understand that motors of this level are not created at the click of a finger. I will not name specific dates, I will only say that the final stage is close.
An important point is that the Su-57 meets all the criteria of the fifth-generation fighter and with a first-stage engine. The main value of this fighter is in its intellectual and information capabilities. It has reduced radar visibility, carries powerful weapons, is able to control unmanned aerial vehicles. To date, the board is, so to speak, filled with intelligent systems. This "stufffincation" provides him with the widest opportunities for detecting and selecting targets, interacting with many other systems. This is the main essence of the Su-57, and it has confirmed its characteristics in combat conditions. I think, in terms of the combination of characteristics and versatility, it is the best fighter in the world.''
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Dopuna: 02 Jan 2024 20:44

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Dopuna: 03 Jan 2024 9:52

Skinuto sa FB-informacija?

Citat:Serial Production of Super cruising Su-57 with Stage 2 Engine Started in Early 2023
Ten Su-57 fighters delivered to the RuAF in 2023 were powered by Stage 2 Izdeliye 30 engines, according to a TASS source.
All Su-57 aircraft delivered in 2024 will feature the Stage 2.
The Stage 2 engine features serrated exhaust nozzle, also referred to as chevron nozzle, which improves thrust efficiency, stability, maneuverability and performance, while reducing engine noise. Most importantly, serrated exhaust nozzles can contribute to reduction in infrared (IR) and radar signatures of the aircraft. By altering the exhaust plume's temperature distribution and shape, serrated nozzles can make the fighter harder for IR and radar sensors to detect and track the aircraft.
According to the Wikipedia, the Stage 2 engine offers 11 tonnes (107.9 kN) dry and 17 tonnes (167 kN) in afterburner.
The Stage 1 L-41F1 produces 9 tonnes (88.3 kN) of dry thrust and 14.5 tonnes (142.2 kN) of thrust in afterburner.
A Su-57 powered by the Stage 2 engine can supercruise at Mach 1.5 to Mach 1.6.
All production Su-57 fighters transferred to the Russian Aerospace Forces (VKS) in 2024 will receive second-stage engines. This was reported to TASS by two high-ranking sources close to the Russian Aerospace Forces.
“The engine of the second stage has been tested and is ready for operation,” said one of the agency’s interlocutors. The second source confirmed this information and added that “all production fifth-generation Su-57 aircraft transferred to the Aerospace Forces in 2024 will receive a fifth-generation engine.”
TASS does not have official confirmation of this information.
According to the agency’s interlocutor, in 2023, more than 10 Su-57s with first-stage engines have already been transferred to the Aerospace Forces. They successfully solve problems in the special military operation zone. “There are no plans to replace the first-stage engines on the Su-57s already transferred to the Aerospace Forces with new engines,” he said, explaining that even with the first-stage engine, the Su-57 surpasses the American F-35 in its characteristics.
Earlier, specialists from the A. M. Lyulka Design Bureau explained that the first stage engine provides the Su-57 with such characteristics as super-maneuverability, thrust-to-weight ratio, and low visibility. Another advantage is the oxygen-free plasma ignition system of the main and afterburner combustion chambers.

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Citat:Russian state orders for fifth-generation Su-57 fighter jets (NATO: Felon ) have doubled. This was said by the CEO of United Aircraft Corporation (UAC) Yury Slyusar as reported.

“We have completed the national defense order. "Everything stipulated in the signed contract and time schedule has been delivered on time, even earlier for certain factories," he said.

"For new aircraft, orders for Su-57 aircraft have almost doubled," he continued.

Slyusar did not elaborate further on what he said.

But he stressed that the order is even bigger and more work needs to be done by 2024.

Previously, Russian Aerospace Forces (VKS) would receive a number of the newest Su-57 fighter aircraft at the end of 2023.

In addition to the Su-57, the Gagarin Aviation Plant (part of UAC, Rostec) in Komsomolsk-on-Amur will also deliver a number of new 4++ generation Su-35S multifunctional fighters.

“This batch of Su-35S aircraft completes the delivery of this type of aircraft under this year's program. "The UAC company is providing modern aviation systems to the Russian Aerospace Forces in accordance with the delivery schedule," Slyusar said at the time.

The aircraft to be delivered have undergone a cycle of ground and flight tests in various operating modes, and also flown from the airfield to their place of assignment.

“The aircraft has highly effective long-range air-to-air and air-to-surface guided weapons, as well as advanced electronic countermeasures and defense systems,” Vladimir Artyako, First Deputy Director General of Rostec, added.

Earlier on November 14, Rostec said that the Su-57's combat capabilities were being improved and the most modern technology was being introduced.

The Su-57 platform continues to develop and the fighter's effectiveness continues to increase. The aircraft is currently undergoing flight tests with its second-stage engine, the company said.