Kineski nosači aviona

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Napisano: 20 Maj 2011 15:33

Cim ja dobijem tu informaciju znace svi. jer ni sami kinezi neznaju puno oko nosaca sta ce sve imati i koja je vrsta motora ali se raspitujem da vidim imali koga sto ce mi reci. Ako imate jos pitanja pitajte pa cu ja proslediti dalje da proverim.

Dopuna: 20 Maj 2011 15:09

Evo ovako po informacijama sto sam dobio Apars'i koji su ugradjeni na nosacu se koriste i na Lyuang II koji je odgovor na Americkog Aegis'a
Ime ovog Apars'a Type 346 AESA array. U vezi motora na nosacu ce te dobiti informaciju uskoro cekam odgovor ovih kineskih prijatelja.

Dopuna: 20 Maj 2011 15:10

Evo jos malo informacije o Radarima koji je na Kineskom nosacu
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Dopuna: 20 Maj 2011 15:33

Evo ovako kao sto sam i malo pre reko ni sami kinezi neznaju tacno koja je propulzija ubacena ali se pretpostavlja da jee i dalje orginalna samo sto je modernizovano i poboljsano kolko sam shvatio.
Evo vam i informaciju koju sam dobio od jedne osobe Kineza ili odakle je vec.



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Does somebody know the names of the apars installed and does somebody have some info about them or is it still a big secret. And one more question does anybody know what kind of engines the carrier is going to use are they diesel engines or what?
And China good luck with this carrier greetings from Serbia

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I would venture a guess that (as with the Gorshkov cum Virkamaditya) the original steamplant has been refurbished (with Ukrainian and/or Russian help) and forms the main propulsion. The original boilers and turbines are very similar to those on the Sovremenny's. Also, I suspect there may be some commonality with Chinese steamplants as used on 051B/C, since these derive from those used in the Luda class, which is turn derives from the Russian Kotlin class, which is a precursor class to the Sovremenny.

Dopuna: 28 Maj 2011 2:18

Malo slika kineskog nosaca




Dopuna: 29 Maj 2011 1:46

Jedna lepa nocna slika

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A top Chinese official for the first time revealed that the growing Chinese military will soon launch its first aircraft carrier.

"An aircraft carrier has been under construction, but has not been completed," China's Defense Minister Chen Bingde told a Hong Kong newspaper Tuesday in a rare admission for the secretive Chinese government.

The Pentagon has been long aware of Chinese ambitions to build not just one, but multiple aircraft carriers as part of an effort to modernize its military force, a spokesperson for the U.S. Department of Defense said today. The U.S. will "maintain the military capabilities necessary to protect our interests, defend our allies, and deter potential adversaries from acts of aggression and intimidation," the spokesperson said.

The 990 ft., 67,500 ton carrier, long-rumored to be in development, is being constructed in the north-east port of Dalian, the report said. While Chen refused to give a specific date, the vessel is reportedly near completion and tests are expected to start later this year. It took an army of workers five years to transform the Soviet-era hull, which was initially bought by a company with ties to the Chinese army who claimed they were building a floating casino destined for Macau.


"All of the great nations in the world own aircraft carriers -- they are symbols of a great nation," Chen's assistant chief, Lt. Gen. Qi Jianguo, assistant chief of the general staff, told the Hong Kong Commercial Daily. But Jianguo also emphasized that after the carrier was deployed it would "definitely not sail to other countries' territorial waters."

The carrier revelation comes at a complicated time for U.S.-Chinese relations.

Earlier this month U.S. Defense Secretary Robert Gates said that military relations between the two countries are now on "a more positive trajectory," but admitted the military relationship was "underdeveloped." In May, a report out of a Washington, D.C., thinktank predicted a new stealth fighter, secretly developed by the Chinese and rarely seen, could be the first to legitimately challenge U.S. stealth fighters in air dominance.

The day after that report came out, ABC News revealed that Pakistani officials hinted that China wanted to take a look at the top secret U.S. stealth helicopter that crashed during the raid that killed Osama bin Laden May 2.

Less than two weeks later, Defense Minister Bingde appeared to attempt to allay American anxiety by telling the National Defense University, "Although China's defense and military development has come a long way in recent years, a gaping gap between you and us remains... China never intends to challenge the U.S."

However, the Pentagon spokesperson said, "We remain concerned about the lack of transparency from China of the force projection and anti-access/area denial capabilities it is acquiring, the intentions that underline those acquisitions, and the resources dedicated to the task."

"The relationship between the United States and China will shape the 21st century, which makes it as important as any bilateral relationship in the world," the spokesperson said.

The Associated Press contributed to this report.

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Što je sigurno sigurno je motor će biti parna turbina.Ja još nisam video nosač na dizel motor,tj motor s unutrašnjim sagorevanjem,kolika bi samo zapremina cilindra trebala biti...

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Napisano: 10 Jun 2011 12:13

Jedna slika sa Google Earth-a




Dopuna: 10 Jun 2011 12:19

A ovde se verovatno radio o modelu

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To sam znao,ali ne govorimo o tankerima nego o nosaču aviona
Zašto na primer ruski nosač Kuznetsov ne koristi dizel motor,već parnu turbinu?Oba motora zahtevaju tečno gorivo (mada turbina može i čvrsto,sve zavisi od generatora pare)...
A i turbina ima veću moć nego dizel motor,pogotovo ako je para dobijena nuklearnom energijom...

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Prednosti gasnih turbina u odnosu na ostale pogonske mašine su:

- veoma visok odnos snaga/težina;
- manji gabariti u odnosu na ostale pogonske mašine iste snage;
- kretanje u samo jednom pravcu, sa mnogo manje vibracija;
- manje pokretnih delova;
- manji radni pritisak;
- veća radna brzina;
- manja cena podmazivanja i manja potrošnja ulja.

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Танкери ипак ретко плове брзином од 30 чворова.

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