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Poslao: 18 Apr 2022 20:41
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mercedesamg ::Каптаин имаш ли линк о гађању те фабрике?
Pročešljaj temu.Čak je i neko psovao Ruse da su kasno gađali tu fabriku.
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Registruj se da bi učestvovao u diskusiji. Registrovanim korisnicima se NE prikazuju reklame unutar poruka.
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Poslao: 18 Apr 2022 20:51
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RJ ::Još jedna veoma dobra analiza čoveka koji se predstavlja kao kapetan broda - viđenje cele situacije iz njegovog ugla...
https://twitter.com/johnkonrad/status/1515837566356008961
Jedan od zaključaka tj.viđenja.
- We know don't see any nearby ships. Professional salvage teams require a lot of heavy equipment and firefighting gear. They would likely get a tugboat to spray the forward end with fire monitors to cool the ship before boarding with fireteams. No nearby ships are cooling her.
A onda sljedi pitanje....
- The next question is why? There is a rescue ship nearby (that ship took this photo) Is she not equipped with fire monitors capable of shooting water outward? Or is she keeping a safe distance because there is a real danger of a secondary explosion from munitions stored aboard?
Sledeći
- Next, we have to ask what's unusual about this photo? To me, the most striking part is the smoke is being blown forward and she has reserved buoyancy. This is a dangerous situation but the aft helideck is free of smoke and should be cool enough to work.
- If this was a commercial ship the captain would likely have abandoned "non-essential" personnel and regrouped his fire teams at a "safe staging area" (likely the helideck) but this is a warship so the salvage team would have to know the location of all explosives before boarding
- Finally, us captains don't care about equipment, we live and die by one rule during emergencies at sea. In an explosion of this magnitude, our job is not to save everyone but to save the highest percentage of people possible. This could lead to hard decisions.
- As a commercial ship captain, the likely correct answer here is to abandon the ship knowing she would likely sink, and let insurance cover the loss.. but a Navy captain does not have that luxury.
- The biggest difference between a commercial ship captain and a navy captain is that we civilians only have to worry about our own crew. Navy guys don't have that luxury. They must think about their crew and the strategic mission.
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Poslao: 18 Apr 2022 21:01
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S2M ::Nije bilo interneta i ovih gluposti kad su njihovi tonuli od razno raznih hezbolaha.Pa neka se sprdaju.Na kraju se mrtvi broje.
Nevezano za razlog eksplozije ali njima USS Cole nije potonuo a otvor je bio...
Stark je pogođen sa dve Exocet rakete ali ni on nije potonuo.
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Poslao: 18 Apr 2022 21:07
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On je bio na vezu ako se ne varam ili.....
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Poslao: 18 Apr 2022 21:09
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Cole је био у луци. Москва је имала по свим доступним изворима имала лошу, скоро никакву ППЗ. Фрагменти ПБР-а су је могли запалити ...Писао сам на главној теми о Нептуну, БГ, вођењу и ефектима на циљу на основу Кх35 од којег је настао и на основу података о сјевернокорејском готово истом систему....
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Poslao: 18 Apr 2022 21:10
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Tako nešto, neko snabdevanje ali nisam siguran.
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Poslao: 18 Apr 2022 21:14
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Kako god, gubitak za Ruse i to pogolem.
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Poslao: 18 Apr 2022 21:16
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Ovaj događaj me podsetio na jednu epizodu njihove carske mornarice koju je interesantno obradio jedan YT kanal. Malo je karikirano u nekim momentima ali interesantno.
https://youtu.be/9Mdi_Fh9_Ag
The Russian 2nd Pacific Squadron - Voyage of the Damned
ima dva dela cela priča
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Poslao: 18 Apr 2022 21:21
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kao i u svakom ratu, tako i u ovom, propaganda je cudo. Ukrainski izvori su definitivno nepouzdani,to se u vise navrata i pokazalo, pa tako i ovo gadjanje fabrike i kijevu. Ukrainci su bili obavesteni od strane rusa,sta ce,gde ce i zasto biti gadjano.
postoi snimak, same eksplozije moskve, koi sam bio u prilici da pogledam. na snimku se nevide nikakve rakete ili koje kakva cuda. iza moskve se na maloj udaljenosti nalazio jos jedan ruski brod sa koga je to sve snimljeno. na snimku se moze videti kako moskva plovi,odjednom se cuje eksplozija i kako sa leve strane broda izbija crni dim.... Ponovicu jos jednom, na snimku se nevide nikakve rakete ili bilo koja cuda od turskih brodova, bajraktara ili sta ti ga znam. zasto tog snimka nema na drustvenim mrezama, to neznam.
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