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па ваљда ово ново које се гради....требло би да има навозе много веће, јер ће се ту градити и танкери...
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Poslao: 24 Apr 2014 01:52
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Brodogradiliste u Kerchu na Krimu bi moglo da ga gradi posle njega Sevmash pa svi ostali...
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Poslao: 24 Apr 2014 10:55
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Rusi možda imaju brodogradilište koje bi kapacitetom moglo graditi takve brodove, ali sumljam da imaju stručnog kadra i potrebnu tehnološku opremu istih. S obzirom da skoro sve brodove kupuju vani. Inženjeri su najbitniji, pa tako i dan danas Koreanci i Kinezi angažiraju naše za tečajeve i edukaciju. A štancaju brodove na veliko.
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Poslao: 24 Apr 2014 11:01
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Kad smo kod brodogradilišta, pre dve godine bila je vest da će Rusija, dok im se grade Mistrali, da radi na izgradnji velikog brodogradilišta na dalekom istoku (i naravno spremanju kadra i resursa za njega), koje će biti maltene ko SevMaš 2, pa čak i veće i sposobno da pravi i opslužuje još veće brodove od njega.
Jel ima nekih novosti o tome? Ili je to ovo što treba da bude na Krimu, samo je promenjena lokacija... ?
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Poslao: 24 Apr 2014 11:05
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Napisano: 24 Apr 2014 11:04
Loes ::Brodogradiliste u Kerchu na Krimu bi moglo da ga gradi posle njega Sevmash pa svi ostali...
To brodogradiliste ne moze da gradi prave NA jer onda kao takav ne moze proci kroz Bosfor/Dardanele ( ima na temi o Admiralu zadnja stranica ) .
Dopuna: 24 Apr 2014 11:05
Lox ::Rusi možda imaju brodogradilište koje bi kapacitetom moglo graditi takve brodove, ali sumljam da imaju stručnog kadra i potrebnu tehnološku opremu istih. S obzirom da skoro sve brodove kupuju vani. Inženjeri su najbitniji, pa tako i dan danas Koreanci i Kinezi angažiraju naše za tečajeve i edukaciju. A štancaju brodove na veliko.
Pored Severodvinska ( uglavnom podmornice ) najveca su im u Sankt Peterburgu ( Admiralsko -Zdanov ,Baltik ) .
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Poslao: 01 Jun 2014 12:50
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Russia develops 3 projects of aircraft carriers - defence ministry
Citat:MOSCOW, May 31 /ITAR-TASS/. Russia has developed three projects of promising aircraft-carrying cruisers, but effective state armament programme does not envisage construction of these warships, Deputy Defence Minister Yuri Borisov said on Saturday.
Russian fifth-generation fighter
New missile for Russian fifth-generation fighter to be developed by 2016
“Effective state armament programme does not plan to build aircraft carriers. Will they be built in the future? May be, I will put it this way,” he said live on radio station Russian News Service.
Borisov noted that construction of aircraft carriers belonged to fulfillment of the country’s military doctrine. “We have three projects of aircraft carriers. The time will show how they will be needed, we do not give up this issue definitely,” the deputy defence minister added. He noted that Krylov Shipbuilding Research Institute had developed current projects that envisage construction of aircraft carriers with a nuclear power unit.
Borisov recalled that the country’s leadership had approved a long-term shipbuilding programme this month. In his words, the document focused on unification in shipbuilding.
“This [the programme] rules out interference in fulfillment of the military-technical policy in this sphere by newly-appointed commanders or someone else. This is a serious programme that has the following main tasks: reduce the range of types, ensure security of our sea borders in near and far sea areas on the principles of reasonable sufficiency and use the principle of unification as much as possible,” the Russian deputy defence minister noted. “Ships should have longer service lives - not 30 years, but at least 50 years,” he added.
http://en.itar-tass.com/russia/734194
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Poslao: 01 Jun 2014 20:07
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stringer bell ::Kad smo kod brodogradilišta, pre dve godine bila je vest da će Rusija, dok im se grade Mistrali, da radi na izgradnji velikog brodogradilišta na dalekom istoku (i naravno spremanju kadra i resursa za njega), koje će biti maltene ko SevMaš 2, pa čak i veće i sposobno da pravi i opslužuje još veće brodove od njega.
Jel ima nekih novosti o tome? Ili je to ovo što treba da bude na Krimu, samo je promenjena lokacija... ?
Brodogradiliste se zove Zvezda (a glavno Sevmash se zove Zvezdocka - zvezdica) i gradi se u Boljskom Kamenju kod vladivostoka. Bice potpuno gotovo do 2019 i moci ce da pravi tankere od 300 000 tona i jace. Ali se ocekuje da se 2016 otvori prvi navoz, za fregate i manje brodove. 2019 ce biti gotov ovaj najveci.
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Poslao: 02 Jun 2014 15:40
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ray ban11 ::Russia develops 3 projects of aircraft carriers - defence ministry
Citat:MOSCOW, May 31 /ITAR-TASS/. Russia has developed three projects of promising aircraft-carrying cruisers, but effective state armament programme does not envisage construction of these warships, Deputy Defence Minister Yuri Borisov said on Saturday.
Russian fifth-generation fighter
New missile for Russian fifth-generation fighter to be developed by 2016
“Effective state armament programme does not plan to build aircraft carriers. Will they be built in the future? May be, I will put it this way,” he said live on radio station Russian News Service.
Borisov noted that construction of aircraft carriers belonged to fulfillment of the country’s military doctrine. “We have three projects of aircraft carriers. The time will show how they will be needed, we do not give up this issue definitely,” the deputy defence minister added. He noted that Krylov Shipbuilding Research Institute had developed current projects that envisage construction of aircraft carriers with a nuclear power unit.
Borisov recalled that the country’s leadership had approved a long-term shipbuilding programme this month. In his words, the document focused on unification in shipbuilding.
“This [the programme] rules out interference in fulfillment of the military-technical policy in this sphere by newly-appointed commanders or someone else. This is a serious programme that has the following main tasks: reduce the range of types, ensure security of our sea borders in near and far sea areas on the principles of reasonable sufficiency and use the principle of unification as much as possible,” the Russian deputy defence minister noted. “Ships should have longer service lives - not 30 years, but at least 50 years,” he added.
http://en.itar-tass.com/russia/734194
I jel rekose kad planiraju da grade nov nosac aviona? Barem okvirno?
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Poslao: 02 Jun 2014 15:46
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Ma nista posebno .Izgleda da njima NA i nisu neki prioritet u VMF. Uostalom imaju narudzbe za samo 24 MiG-29K/KUB .Da oni racunaju na nove NA bilo bi njih vise .Ovako samo prica za pricom se nize .
Nista novo ...
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Rusi prvo moraju da odluče šta hoće da budu velika ili globalna sila. Tek ako odluče da ponovo budu globalna sila krenuće u izgradnju nosača aviona. Oni su jedno vreme bili zagrejani za ubrzanu gradnju nosača aviona jer je pretila opasnost da ostanu bez vojno pomorskih baza u inostranstvu. Međutim, situacija se u poslednjih par godina dramatično izmenila u njihovu korist. Gotovo je izvesno da će sačuvati bazu u Siriji i da će obnoviti prisustvo na Kubi. U ozbiljnim pregovorima su sa Nikaragvom, Egiptom i Sejšelima. Imaju ugovore za remont brodova sa Kinom i uskoro Indijom. Vojno pomorsku bazu im ustupa i Iran samo se Rusi još uvek premišljaju. Pokušaće verotavno da dobiju i bazu u Alžiru a neophodna im je i baza na zapadnoj obali Afrike (verovatno će nešto pokušati sa Angolom). Baze neverovatno mnogo koštaju upravo one najviše koštaju i Amere. Jednostavno Rusi ne mogu sebi da priušte istovremeno opremanje vojno pomorskih baza po svetu i izgradnju nosača. Oni će verovatno svesno odustati od izgradnje velikog broja vojno pomorskih baza jer je to stvarno neverovatno skupo. Tek kad osposobe 6, 7 ili 8 vojno pomorskih baza širom sveta (Amerikanci ih imaju na destine, ali najveći broj njih i nema vojni već politički značaj) krenuće u izgradnju nosača aviona i to sigurno ne više od 2 do 3. Ne treba im više. S obzirom da su Ameri spali na tri borbene grupe od po 2 nosača aviona operativne, Rusi će ići na jednu borbenu grupu od dva nosača i jedan u remontu ili to plus jedan samostalan za politčku demostraciju sile i to bi bio verovatno postojeći dok bi se izgradila još 3 (možda i samo 2) nuklearna nosača aviona.
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