Poslao: 06 Maj 2010 09:06
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- iizuzetan
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Licno mislim da im je to promasena investicija ako misle da se sa njima suprotstave amerikancima. Kao prvo ti helikopteri imaju jako veliku siluetu, a kao drugo amerikanci imaju tako mocne interkontinentalne rakete da sto se tice vojne moci mogu za par dana da sruse celi iran. Medjutim postoji drugi problem zasto Amerikanci nesmeju jos uvek da krenu u rat do istrebljenja sa irancima ali to je druga tema.
Znaci nista spektakularno i nista narocito sto se tice tih helikoptera.
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Poslao: 06 Maj 2010 09:22
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- aramis s
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Ovde pričamo o usvajanju proizvodnje i modernizaciji helikoptera koga se ni sam USMC (marinci) neće još dugo odreći. Čeona silueta je veoma mala- 90cm i po meni je jedina mana što nišanska sprava nišandžije nije postavljena u turelu iznad glave pilota.
Pitanje je samo koliko su usavršili TOW. U kombinaciji sa onim malim helikopterom Shahed 285, može da predstavlja opasnog protivnika.
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Poslao: 06 Maj 2010 10:19
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- Dicus
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Ja bih rekao da je ovo samo modernizovana Kobra. Na fotografiji kokpita se vidi da palica i instrumenti nisu novi...
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Poslao: 06 Maj 2010 10:26
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- sebab
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reverse engineering uz po koju modifikaciju. nekome deluje kao lose, ali se tako osvajaju novi proizvodi i ostvaruje napredak sopstvene namenske. nisu ni drugi "debitanti" bili svojevremeno mnogo razliciti, pa ni mi.
mislim da bi takav helikopter dobro dosao i nama, ne verujem da bi se mnogo njih bunilo.
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Poslao: 06 Maj 2010 11:41
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Još bolje pitanje je kakve su uspehe u borbi protiv Iraka imali Iranci sa Kobrama?
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Poslao: 06 Maj 2010 12:11
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Kos93 ::Još bolje pitanje je kakve su uspehe u borbi protiv Iraka imali Iranci sa Kobrama?
In 1971 Iran purchased 202 improved AH-IJ Cobra gunships from the United States.[10] This improved Cobra, known as the AH-1J International, resulted from this contract featured an uprated P&WC T400-WV-402 engine and stronger drivetrain. Recoil damping gear was fitted to the 20mm gun turret, and the gunner was given a stabilized sight and even a stabilized chair. 62 of the International AH-1Js delivered to the Shah's forces were TOW-capable, while the rest were not.[11]
They participated in the Iran–Iraq War. Iranian AH-1J SeaCobras engaged in air combat with Iraqi Mi-24s on several separate occasions during the war. The results of these engagements are disputed. One document cited that "Iranian AH-1Js engaged Iraqi MI-8 Hip and MI-24 Hind helicopters.[12] Unclassified sources report that the Iranian AH-1 pilots achieved a 10:1 kill ratio over the Iraqi helicopter pilots during these engagements (1:5). Additionally, Iranian AH-1 and Iraqi fixed wing aircraft engagements also occurred. Others claim that in the entire eight-year conflict, ten Iranian AH-1Js were lost in combat, compared to six Iraqi Mi-24s. The skirmishes are described as fairly evenly matched in another source.[13] Iranian AH-1Js are still operating today and have undergone indigenous upgrade programs. In 1988, two Soviet MiG-23s shot down a pair of Iranian AH-1Js[14] that had strayed into western Afghan airspace.
[edit] Nijesu se nesto proslavili ali zato u "Pustinjskoj oluji" jesu:
During Operation Desert Shield in 1990, and Operation Desert Storm in Jan-Feb 1991, Cobras and SeaCobras deployed to Iraq in a support role. A total of 78 Marine SeaCobras flew 1,273 sorties[8] with no combat losses. Three AH-1s were lost in accidents during combat operations and afterwards. Marine AH-1Ws destroyed 97 tanks, 104 armored personal carriers and vehicles, and two anti-aircraft artillery sites during the 100-hour ground campaign.
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Poslao: 06 Maj 2010 17:03
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Amerikanci obicno forsiraju proizvode koji donose vece zarade. Puno se pricalo o Apacu tokom zalivskog rata.
Amerikanci ce uskro uvesti u naoruzanje 200+ AH-1Z Viper. Nisam se nesto puno bavio borbenim helikopterima. Na prvi pogled mi ne deluje da Apac nudi nesto puno vise.
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