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Poslao: 23 Maj 2009 22:28
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Ja joj se divim al je baš i ne poštujem jer pronalasci mogu biti i ekstremno invanzivni. Čitajući temu iz radoznalosti, ipak se moram sloziti da je uklanjanje mina na konvencionalni način efikasnije i da je nužno imati dobru opremu....A da, inače o genetski modifikovanim proizvodima postoje kontraverzna mišljenja....
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Registruj se da bi učestvovao u diskusiji. Registrovanim korisnicima se NE prikazuju reklame unutar poruka.
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Poslao: 23 Maj 2009 23:30
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@natrix....
Citat:Ja joj se divim al je baš i ne poštujem
Razumemo se 
Pod postovanje sam uvrstio sav trud i znanje koji ulazu ljudi od nauke.
Citat:A da, inače o genetski modifikovanim proizvodima postoje kontraverzna mišljenja....
Naravno, postoje kontraverzna misljenja. Eto,...ja mislim da oni koji afirmativno misle i govore o genetski modifikovanim proizvodima lobiraju za njegovo velicansto US $
Generalno, nije na nama ljudima da se bavimo bozjim stvarima. Ova priroda, kakvu jos uvek poznajemo, je sve lepo regulisala i dovela u savrsenu ravnorezu. U slucaju uplitanja ljudi u stvari prirode, odgovor prirode bi mogao biti surov.
Neke naznake odgovora vec osecamo.
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Poslao: 03 Jun 2009 19:11
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Sta kazete za ovo? Po meni dobro resenje jer je jeftino i brzo.
Treba im nekih 6 do 8 meseci da se pacovi dresiraju a posle toga mnogo brze od coveka pronadje mine.
youtube.com/watch?v=_eAGtAYW6mA
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Poslao: 03 Jun 2009 19:49
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Gledao sam u Bosni `92 kako stado ovaca pase na metar od mine ali joj ne prilazi, cak sta vise. Da li ovce imajuneki prirodni detektor ili nesto drugo nisam siguran ali znam da ovca nece da pase kontaminiranu travu.
ZNACI RESENJE JE: Ovce na razminiranje a kada zavrse na razanj. Dve koristi odjednom i bezbedno nadju mine i vojska bude sita.
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Poslao: 03 Jun 2009 19:54
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btw, to nije obican pacov, nego dzinovski pacov kesash (ima kese u obrazima, kao hrcak).. hteo sam jednog takvog ali ne mogu nikako da nadjem kod nas.
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Poslao: 03 Jun 2009 20:10
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A sta da radimo sa tim pacovima kada pronadju sve mine? Da li i njih na razanj? A ko ce njima da komanduje i ko da ih pohvata kada zavrse posao? Da ne pricamo o bolestima koje pacovi prenose i o opasnosti da nam ``strucna lica`` nastradaju u kontaktu sa psima i mackama.
Dopuna: 03 Jun 2009 20:10
Posto ne mozes da ga pronadjes u Srbiji onda je resenje sa ovcama mnogo bolje posto ih ima u Srbiji a ionako bi popravili stocni fond.
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Poslao: 03 Jun 2009 20:18
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bome ovo strucno lice nece tako lako stradati u kontaktu sa psima i mackama - cetri kile i pola metra kad poraste  ) za bolesti, jbg bolesti moze da ti prenese i ker, ne skupljaju oni te pacove iz kanalizacije. naravno, ovo za pacova sam govorio kao za ljubimche  mislim da su te alternativne metode nista drugo nego alternativne.. od kojih je ova sa gm biljkama i stetna...
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Poslao: 03 Jun 2009 20:22
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evo o pacovima i minama sa wiki
Land mines
A Belgian company, APOPO, has begun training giant pouch rats to sniff out land mines. The trained giant pouched rats are called HeroRATS. Due to their excellent sense of smell and tractable personality the giant pouch rat has excelled in this application. They are clicker trained from an early age to associate the smell of explosives with a food reward, usually banana or a peanut.[3] In the field, the rat wears a harness connected to a rope suspended between two handlers. Multiple rats sweep up and down an area about the size of a racquetball court one at a time and areas that the rats signal to (usually by stopping and scratching) are noted on a grid of the area. When an area has been thoroughly swept by the rats a team with metal detectors goes in and detonates all mines in the area.[4]
Using giant pouch rats in place of dogs has several advantages. The rats are indigenous to Africa where they are used and thus are well suited to the climate and are resistant to many endemic diseases. They are also widely available and inexpensive to procure. Training time is much shorter for rats than dogs and fewer resources are needed to raise a rat to (zabranjeno)hood, and giant pouch rats have a relatively long life span.
In the field, the rat's relatively small size means that it rarely detonates mines by walking over them. Both rat and rat handler teams are therefore safer than dogs and dog handler teams. Furthermore, large areas can be swept by multiple rats for multiple bombs before a detonation team goes in to explode the detected bombs. This cuts down on the time needed to search a particular area, since with dogs each land mine must be detonated as it is detected, to avoid the greater danger of search dogs detonating land mines. The rat's small size also means that many rats can be easily transported to and from field sites.
As with the use of dogs, land mines that have been manufactured to be completely sealed cannot be detected. These mines must be detected with metal detectors, since both dogs and rats use their sense of smell to detect trace amounts of explosive that leak from land mines.[5]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gambian_pouch_rat
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