Oklopni transporter i borbeno vozilo pešadije PATRIA AMV

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Oklopni transporter i borbeno vozilo pešadije PATRIA AMV

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^ Tu si upravu, samo Finci mogu dati licencu dok se kod ostalih kupuje gotov proizvod.



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Pišu da je procjenjena jedinična cijena 8x8 sa PDV-om u njihovom slučaju preko 5 milijuna eura. Dobar pokazatelj zemljama koje također planiraju nabavku novih 8x8 platformi u skorije vrijeme....



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^ Pitanje kakav aranžma ide uz tu cenu?

Dopuna: 15 Nov 2017 12:53
Ovakva je bila inicialna ponuda Patria/Svaruna za SV. Sa daljinskom stanicom Elbit UT-30 sa karusel spremištem municije. Cena kompletne Elbitove stanice s avt. topom 30mm je bila ispod 0,5 mil. dolara. Ali se izmuljao prekid ugovora... Ostalo več znate.

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Evo i službeno je posao odobren, doduše ne sama kupnja već nastavak izrade prototipa..... iznjeli su i konkretne podatke o cijeni koje su manji od inicijalnih procjena, tako da bi jedinična cijena vozila trebala biti oko 4 milijuna eura...

Citat:Government approves the procedure for SVK MOD to procure 8x8 and 4x4 vehicles
The Slovak Security Council and Government today gave the SVK MOD the go-ahead to the procedure for the procurement of 8x8 and 4x4 land vehicle platforms for the SVK Armed Forces to ensure continuity of their research & development (R&D). The decision was not an approval of any purchase. As for the 8x8 combat armoured vehicles, the preferred choice will be the Slovak-Finnish vehicle platform built on the Patria chassis, whereas the Slovak defence industry's role in its manufacture should be up to 70 per cent of the overall scope of the project.

As Chairman of the Commission and Coordinator for Drafting, Assessment and Implementation of the MOD's Strategic Documents / General Secretary of the Service Office (MOD) Ján Hoľko remarked, subject matter specialists compared all relevant vehicle platforms available on the market in search of solutions. “The conclusion is that the Patria armoured vehicle best befits the military technical requirements, whereas the project will be developed as a joint R&D programme with the Government's participation. This makes it possible to adjust the vehicle design to our requirements, whilst concurrently driving the development of a completely new vehicle platform of Slovak manufacture,” he said, adding that in the case of the 4x4 military vehicles the development of our own vehicle platform has turned out to be the best solution.

The overall costs of the 8x8 vehicle procurement programme should not exceed €417 million, with the estimated price of 1 vehicle amounting up to €4 million with VAT. The procurement will be implemented from 2018 through to 2024.

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^ Znači neće biti Patria AMV več slovački razvoj vozila na šasiji Patrie AMV i uz asistenciju Finaca. Pametni Slovaci ne troše pare za licenciju več za "know-how" vlastitog vozila što im omogučuje više manevarskog prostora i zarade kod izvoza.

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Napisano: 17 Nov 2017 22:34

Koliko sam ja shvatio bazno vozilo 8x8 je AMV....

Dopuna: 19 Nov 2017 8:27

BOV Patrija CRO namjenjene razmještanju u Poljsku u sklopu eFP dobijaju dadatne nosaće opreme i streljiva...

Citat:Remontni zavod izradio je za potrebe HKoV-a prototip nosača opreme vojnika na vanjskom dijelu BOV-a PATRIA CRO te nosača dodatnih kutija streljiva za povećanje borbenog kompleta.

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jazbar ::S-lash ::Napisano: 16 Okt 2017 20:44
jazbar ::^ Kakve kritike?
A. Viler rekao da su to najglupija vrata na svetu...ako uzmemo u obzir da je po izražanju primitivac, ali se ipak nešto razume u oklopnu tehniku, čovjek bi mu vjerovao da možda i nije najpametnija solucija. Vidjet čemo na novim vozilima Smile

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krunc ::BOV Patrija CRO namjenjene razmještanju u Poljsku u sklopu eFP dobijaju dadatne nosaće opreme i streljiva...

Citat:Remontni zavod izradio je za potrebe HKoV-a prototip nosača opreme vojnika na vanjskom dijelu BOV-a PATRIA CRO te nosača dodatnih kutija streljiva za povećanje borbenog kompleta.

Ispada da zadnja vrata sa spremištom za municiju na Svarunima 8x8 i nije bila tako loša ideja!? A i sigurnije je zamenjivati kutiju s municijom kroz unutrašnjost vozila nego je najpre tražiti vani.

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Official statement from Patria on the joint Slovak-Finnish 8x8 vehicle development programme
Citat: The Slovak and Finnish Ministries of Defence have today announced the launch of a joint 8x8 infantry fighting vehicle (IFV) development programme, and Patria has been selected to deliver a new Patria 8x8 chassis for the 8x8 IFVs as part of the programme.

The industrial partners selected by the Ministries of Defence of both countries are Konstrukta Defence a. s. (prime contractor), Patria Land Systems Oy (newly developed chassis) and EVPÚ a. s. (weapon system).

The 8x8 combat armoured vehicle programme starts with a testing phase in Slovakia, and after the trials in Slovakia the vehicle will be tested in Finland this winter. Based on the results of the development programme and successful tests, the SVK MOD plans to procure up to 81 IFVs as part of this SVK Armed Forces modernisation programme to be delivered in the period 2018-2024.

The Patria AMVXP 8x8 vehicle includes NATO and EU proven solutions which fulfil customers' requirements. “During this programme, we will develop – together with EVPÚ, Konstrukta Defence a. s. and other partners of the Slovak defence industry – a new version of an amphibious AMVXP integrated with the Turra weapon system, fulfilling the requirements of both Slovakian and Finnish Defence Forces. We have had continuous production in our manufacturing network since 2003, which creates capability to short lead time deliveries. We also have solid and strong experience of technology transfer programmes and localization of manufacturing of vehicles, which will create work and business opportunities in Slovakia, when the serial production and delivery phase comes in”, confirmed Mika Kari, President of Land Business Unit Patria.

Za cijenu su rekli cca 4 milijuna eura po komadu....

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^ U gonjem postu si objavio citat da ukupna vrednost ugovora neće da bude viša od 417 mil. €.Citat:The overall costs of the 8x8 vehicle procurement programme should not exceed €417 million, with the estimated price of 1 vehicle amounting up to €4 million with VAT. The procurement will be implemented from 2018 through to 2024.
U poslednjem postu se navodi 81 komada vozila znači ako delimo sa vrednošću ugovora cena dođe po komadu 5,15 mil. €. Naravno tu je uključen finski know how. Sad treba sačekati još da objave pravu vrednost ugovora pa da vidimo stvarnu vrednost po komadu.Citat:The 8x8 combat armoured vehicle programme starts with a testing phase in Slovakia, and after the trials in Slovakia the vehicle will be tested in Finland this winter. Based on the results of the development programme and successful tests, the SVK MOD plans to procure up to 81 IFVs as part of this SVK Armed Forces modernisation programme to be delivered in the period 2018-2024.

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Da, kad su cifre u pitanju za sada se radi o procjenama koje je službeno objavilo slovačko ministarstvo obrane, no oni su dosta pedantni po tom pitanju tako da predviđaju da će ukupna vrijednost ugovora biti 417 milijuna eura dok bi pojedinačna cijena serijskog primjerka vozila sa porezom u količini od 81 primjeraka bila oko 4 milijuna eura, a rokovi isporuke 2018-2024... razlika će otići na razvoj cijele platforme, integraciju NSO u bazno vozilo, testiranja koja planiraju provesti ove i sljedeće godine kada bi trabala započeti serijska proizvodnja.... Slažem se da treba pričekati pa će se u konačnici vidjeti krajnja cijena koja može rasti ili se smanjiti. Sve to je samo dobar pokazatelj vašim planerima koji misle nabavljati dodatne količine vozila na 8x8 platformi ili pak našima koji u 10 godina od potpisa ugovora nisu uspjeli dovršiti projekt BOV Patrija-Cro...

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