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Poslao: 17 Okt 2021 22:47
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- Gavrilo Milentijević
- Komandir stanice milicije Gornje Polje
- Pridružio: 12 Feb 2005
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- Gde živiš: ovalni kabinet
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Wagner u africi....
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Poslao: 25 Nov 2021 15:12
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- Jovan Nenad
- Elitni građanin
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Gotovo da nema aktuelnih vojnih dešavanja u svetu u kojima se ne pominje ova formacija.
Krim, Donbas, Sirija, Libija, Sudan, CAR, Venecuela, Belorusija, Mozambik...
Svakako nije jedina ovog tipa ali, u moru sličnih američkih, evropskih, južnoafričkih i drugih formacija, Vagner grupa izazvala je najveću medijsku pažnju i o njoj se najviše priča.
Na zapadu ih zovu privatna Putinova vojska. Nesumnjivo je to da deluju kao produžena ruka ruske diplomatije. Procenjuje se da angažovanih pripadnika Vagner grupe diljem sveta ima preko 5000.
Svakako, mislim da su zaslužili da dobiju svoju temu ovde.
Evo da vidimo šta o njima kaže wikipedia:
The Wagner Group (Russian: Группа Вагнера, romanized: Gruppa Vagnera), also known as PMC Wagner, ChVK Wagner (ChVK being the Russian abbreviation for Private Military Company[31]), or CHVK Vagner (ЧВК Вагнера ChVK Vagnera, Частная Военная Компания Вагнера), is a Russian paramilitary organization. Some have described it as a private military company (or private military contracting agency), whose contractors have reportedly taken part in various conflicts, including operations in the Syrian civil war on the side of the Syrian government as well as, from 2014 until 2015, in the war in Donbas in Ukraine aiding the separatist forces of the self-declared Donetsk and Luhansk People's Republics.
Others, including reports in The New York Times, are of the opinion that ChVK Wagner is an arms-length unit of the Russian Ministry of Defence (MoD) and/or the GRU[32] in disguise, which is used by the Russian government in conflicts where deniability is called for, as its forces are trained on MoD installations. It is believed to be owned by Yevgeny Prigozhin, a businessman with close links to Russian President Vladimir Putin.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wagner_Group
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Poslao: 25 Nov 2021 18:07
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- Jovan Nenad
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A.R.Chafee.Jr. ::Ovo je za deo o vojnim jedinicama.
Nikakav problem, mogu da je prebace
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Poslao: 08 Jan 2022 14:50
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- poljoprivreda
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Intervju - Erik Prince:
https://asiatimes.com/2021/12/russia-china-beating-us-in-gray-zone-warfare/
https://asiatimes.com/2021/12/erik-prince-calls-fo.....abilities/
https://asiatimes.com/2021/12/erik-prince-qa/
Meni najbolji deo:
Citat:Why did the US turn your solution down?
I wrote an op-ed in the Wall Street Journal in May 2017 for an audience of one: I wanted one person to read it. And it worked. President Donald Trump read it, sitting at the Oval Office desk. And I’m told this by someone that was in the room. He called in his National Security Adviser, who had just asked to send 70,000 more troops to Afghanistan. That was HR McMaster, a serving three-star, army, tank officer, armor guy. Trump wanted to end endless wars. And Trump said, “I don’t like your plan, I like this one” – pointing to the Journal article. And he said, “Do this.”
So the next day, I get a call from McMaster’s office: Please come in and brief him on what my thoughts were. And McMaster dumped on the idea from the very outset, because he is a product of the Pentagon – of 25 years of conventional thinking. For the Pentagon it was absolutely, absolutely out of limits, and could not even be considered. I managed to make it to the Pentagon to brief Secretary of Defense James Mattis, who said at a Security Cabinet meeting, that my analysis of the root problems were the best he saw, but he just could not accept contractors doing it.
So the problem with President Trump is he surrounded himself with a constellation of very conventional generals, between the National Security Adviser; the Secretary of Defense, who was effectively a 5-star Marine; John Kelly his White House chief of staff was another Marine 4-star, the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs, Joe Dunford another Marine 4-star. And so again, all that conventional thinking. I think if Mike Flynn had been still the National Security Adviser, there would have been a different paradigm pursued in Afghanistan, because he realized that the last 18 years at that point, were a disaster and a different tack had to be taken.
Ultimately, I knew it would be impossible for the Pentagon to stomach that. When the US went to Afghanistan after 9/11, they went under Title 50 Authorities – which is how the CIA operates versus Title 10, which is how the Pentagon operates.
And when the US went to get Bin Laden in Pakistan, that was under Title 50 authorities, because Pakistan we were not at war with. And so the better approach would have been for the Pentagon to leave, and let the agency clean it up, just like they cleaned it up in the first place after 9/11, using their unique contracting authorities and their ability to operate and leave some kind of stay-behind presence. What I offered the president was rejected by the very conventional Washington bureaucracy surrounding him.
Ispade da je Trump zbog Erikovog teksta povukao vojsku iz Avganistana.
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