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Citat:The first batch (6) of volumn productions J-15 have been just delivered to the Navy.



http://chinesemilitaryreview.blogspot.com/2013/12/.....rk_22.html

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China Flies First Large Turbofan
http://www.ainonline.com/aviation-news/2014-01-10/.....e-turbofan
Citat:Photos have appeared on Chinese websites of an Ilyushin Il-76 testbed fitted with a large high-bypass-ratio turbofan under the port inner pylon. The engine is believed to be the WS-20 (also reported as WS-118), which is under development as a possible powerplant for the Xian Y-20 airlifter. The prototype Y-20s, the first of which flew on January 26 last year, are powered by the NPO Saturn D-30KP-2 imported from Russia. This engine is also used by the Il-76 itself, and by China’s H-6K missile-carrying bomber.

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Long-range stealth bomber under development in China

Citat:The First Aircraft Institute of the Aviation Industry Corporation of China has been designing the first generation long-range stealth bomber for the People's Liberation Army Air Force since 2008, a report from the state-run China Aviation News stated.

http://www.wantchinatimes.com/news-subclass-cnt.as.....p;cid=1101

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Јел' браћо кинези а чији ћете мотор да метнете у то сокоћало?

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Ma ko će da ih zaustavi? Nonšalantno grade stealth lovce, AESA razarače, SSBN i SSN podmornice, nosače aviona, putuju svemirom, grade svoj GPS, nove UAV, rakete na tone i mnogo druge stvari.

Od cca. 1,4 milijarde KIneza, barem 100 njih će znati napraviti novi motor za stealth bombarder.

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Napisano: 21 Jan 2014 19:09

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Dopuna: 22 Jan 2014 10:59

China May Build Thousands of 4th-Generation Aircrafts Topping the US and Russia

Citat:Russian Military Massenger weekly says in its report on May 21: Over the past decade, Chinese troops have achieved surprising progress. China’s fighter jets can at least be rival to Russian ones in functions and are steadily catching up with American ones.

The weekly says: In mid 1990s, Chinese air force still had several hundred J-5 fighter jets while in the first few years of the 21st century it still used lots of J-6 and regarded J-7 as its new modern weapons. However, over the past decade, Chinese troops have made amazing progress. J-6 was retired three years ago while J-7 has withdrawn to the second line and only 700 to 800 J-7 remain in service. The Chinese now have about 200 J-8s, which being a mediocre type are expected to be kept in warehouses or dismantled in 10 to 15 years.

According to the report, for Chinese air force, its Su-27s purchased from Russia are the symbol of a new era. China bought 76 Su-27SK/UBKs from Russia and then built 105 J-11As by virtue of a license. Since 2007, China has begun mass production of J-11B. At the beginning of this century, China purchased from Russia 76 Su-30MKKs and 25 Su-30MK2s and then began mass production of J-16 in 2012. Now, Chinese air force (including navy air force) has 240 to 300 Su-27s/J-11s and up to 110 S-30s/J-16s. The number will grow rapidly along with the mass production of J-11B and J-16. As a result, in terms of the number of fourth-generation fighter jets, China will certainly surpass the US and Russia within a few years and rank no. one. By that time, its fighter jets will be newer than the US and Russia in shape.

The Russian media points out: In Chinese air force, J-10 is a light fighter, in which the technology of Israel and US fighters has been used for reference and there are also some ingredients of Russian technology. At present there are 150 to 250 J-10s in service and there will be more improved types of them. Tests of J-20 and J-31 have drawn much interest abroad. Judging by their appearances, they are fifth-generation fighter jets: J-20 looks like F-22 and J-31, F-35. However, we all know that China-made engines fail to meet even fourth-generation standards so that there have not yet been clear prospects for J-20 and J-31. Moreover, US experience tells us that development of fifth-generation fighters has reached dead end in terms of functions-price ratio; therefore, it may perhaps be enough for China to strive to obtain a few thousand fourth-generation fighters (a target achievable within 8 to 10 years). By that time, China will top the US and Russia and rank first in number of fighters and be by no means inferior in the quality of its fighters.

https://tiananmenstremendousachievements.wordpress.....nd-russia/

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nekoliko tisuca novih borbenih aviona unutar deset godina? ma da su i prosla generacija to je iznimno nerealno, da ne kazem gotovo nemoguce, a kamoli kad se radi o novoj generaciji aviona, gdje j20 nece uci u serijsku proizvodnju prije najranije 2016, mozda i 2018.

Dosadasnja kineska proizvodnja, koja bome u slicnom volumenu traje vec par desetljeca, ne prelazi 70ak borbenih aviona godisnje. takva je bila i kad je j7 bio glavni avion, takva je bila i prije 10 godina, i takva je i danas. Mozda teoretski zaista i ode gore u narednim godinama, ali bas da u roku par godina skoci pa nekoliko stotina posto? u stvarnom svijetu nemoguce.

sve da se sutra pocne j20 serijski proizvoditi, i da proizvode samo to i nista drugo, do par tisuca aviona (ajmo uzet minimum od 2000) trebalo bi im jedno 30 godina sadasnjim tempom.

Realno, s nekim uracunatim povecanjem proizvodnje (a to je tek pretpostavka bez osnova), do 2000 aviona pete generacije (dakle j20, neka varijanta j31, mozda neki nasljednik j10 ili jh7) kinezi ce doci tamo negdje polovicom 2030ih. U najboljem slucaju, da doslovno poduplaju proizvodnju. A realnije mozda polovicom 2040ih.

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Mislim da im je namera da po kvantitetu kontriraju američkim F-35.

Može se očekivati još 500 Flankera (J-11B, J-15, J-16), 300 J-10B, do 1.000 J-31 i oko 200 J-20. Sigurno spremaju još neke nove lovce. FC-1/JF-17 bi im bio dobra zamena za F-7/MiG-21, međutim tu su se odavno odlučili za teži J-10A/B/S, što je i pametnije.