Kineske vazduhoplovne snage

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Mislim da ne postoji jednosjeda verzija L-15.

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jazbar ::Više sam polagao pažnju na Kineze, jer Ameri nisu više faktor koji bi Rusima predstavljao neke probleme, osim toga Kinezi su prve komšije Rusa i jako alergićni ako neko podupire bilokakvu samostalnost Tajvana..
Odgovoricu ti jednim zanimljivim komentarom na koji sam naleteo slucajno, a koji glasi ovako (odnosi se na Kinu i Kineze); da da... bice sigurno bolji od Amerikanaca kada postanu svetski lider. Ljudi koji familiji streljanog ''disidenta'' posalju racun za metak... plakacemo za Amerikom.

Mada slazem se sa tobom da Amerika vise nije faktor pretnje i problema Rusiji.

mean_machine ::Kineski predlozi za buducnosti
Bespilotna napadacka letelica "Skriveni Mač"

I varijanta lakog jednomotornog lovca koji izgleda bi koristio dosta tehnologije "Skrivenog Mača"

Bilo bi jako zanimljivo videti da nesto ovakvo stvarno i poleti. Na skicama cesto mnogi avioni buducnosti izgledaju kao vanzemaljski objekti.

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suponik ::Mislim da ne postoji jednosjeda verzija L-15.
Pa i ne postoji. Ovo je samo "umetnicka vizija".

Dopuna: 31 Mar 2010 16:40

Jedna od retkih fotografija nigerijskih J-7 NI.

Nigerija je od Kine porucila 12 jednoseda i 3 dvoseda, isporuka aviona izvrsena je zakljucno sa 2009-om godinom.
Posao je vredan 251 milion USD i bio je kompenzacija za nigerijsku naftu.
Jedinicna cena aviona bila je 11 miliona USD, ostalo su rezervni delovi, naoruzanje, oprema.

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Vest o pakistanskim JF-17 Thunder-ima.

Citat:France says arms sale to Pakistan held up

PARIS: France's plan to sell 1.2 billion euro ($1.6 billion) worth of military equipment for Pakistan's JF-17 combat aircraft has been held up, a source at President Nicolas Sarkozy's office said on Friday.

Newspaper Le Monde had reported earlier that France decided to suspend the sale of electronics and missiles -- the first section of a 6 billion euro contract -- under pressure from India and uncertainty over Pakistan's finances.

“It's a deal that's not ready from the Pakistani side,” the source said, without giving further details. “For now, the state of the dossier doesn't allow us to carry on with it.”

A consortium made up of French company ATE, arms group Thales <TCFP.PA> and missile manufacturer MBDA was supposed to produce the equipment, Le Monde said. Thales declined to comment.

France was also worried over insufficient protection of its technology, with Pakistan pushing to assemble the equipment on its soil, the paper said.

In February, MBDA said it planned to upgrade India's Mirage 2000 fighters and was looking to expand in India.—Reuters

http://www.dawn.com/wps/wcm/connect/dawn-content-l.....+up--bi-05

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aerodrom ::suponik ::Mislim da ne postoji jednosjeda verzija L-15.
Pa i ne postoji. Ovo je samo "umetnicka vizija".

Dopuna: 31 Mar 2010 16:40

Jedna od retkih fotografija nigerijskih J-7 NI.

Nigerija je od Kine porucila 12 jednoseda i 3 dvoseda, isporuka aviona izvrsena je zakljucno sa 2009-om godinom.
Posao je vredan 251 milion USD i bio je kompenzacija za nigerijsku naftu.
Jedinicna cena aviona bila je 11 miliona USD, ostalo su rezervni delovi, naoruzanje, oprema.




E ovako nesto treba i nama. Cela eskadrila za 1/4 milijarde.
Glavna mana MiG-21bis je otklonjena zahvaljujuci duplom delta krilu i nesto jacem motoru.

Poznajemo MiG-21 odlicno pa ne bio problem kraci vek trajanja zmaja i motora.

Doduse najvise bih voleo da vidim super MiG-21 (moja mastarija: MiG-21 sa AESA radarom, AL-31 motorom (bez DS komore), duplim delta krilom i kanardima )

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mean_machine ::aerodrom ::suponik ::Mislim da ne postoji jednosjeda verzija L-15.
Pa i ne postoji. Ovo je samo "umetnicka vizija".

Dopuna: 31 Mar 2010 16:40

Jedna od retkih fotografija nigerijskih J-7 NI.

Nigerija je od Kine porucila 12 jednoseda i 3 dvoseda, isporuka aviona izvrsena je zakljucno sa 2009-om godinom.
Posao je vredan 251 milion USD i bio je kompenzacija za nigerijsku naftu.
Jedinicna cena aviona bila je 11 miliona USD, ostalo su rezervni delovi, naoruzanje, oprema.




E ovako nesto treba i nama. Cela eskadrila za 1/4 milijarde.
Glavna mana MiG-21bis je otklonjena zahvaljujuci duplom delta krilu i nesto jacem motoru.

Poznajemo MiG-21 odlicno pa ne bio problem kraci vek trajanja zmaja i motora.

Doduse najvise bih voleo da vidim super MiG-21 (moja mastarija: MiG-21 sa AESA radarom, AL-31 motorom (bez DS komore), duplim delta krilom i kanardima )
Samo jedno pitanje : znas li da je Mikojan licno razmatrao varijantu MiG-21 sa uvodnikom ispod trupa , jacim motorom , novim radarom i kanarima ?
Zakljucak je bio da je to previse prepravki za osnovnu konstrukciju koja je u to vreme vec bila stara 30 godina . I od ideje se odustalo .
A ako realno pogledas sta je Mikojan hteo , nas NA ili svedski Gripen bi bili savremeni ekvivalenti te osnovne ideje . Bez 30 godina stare osnovne konstrukcije sa svim njenim slabostima .
Ili , sto bi nas narod rekao , od babe se ne pravi devojka .

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Znamo dobro za taj prototip MiG-a 21. A J-7E/G odn. F-7MG je verovatno poslednja i najnaprednija verzija aviona J-7.

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Zanimljiv tekst o kineskom lovcu pete generacije.

Citat:China Close To Testing Next-Gen Fighter

A Chinese fighter of nominally the same technology generation as the Lockheed Martin F-22 will soon enter flight testing, while a jet airlifter larger than the Airbus A400M should be unveiled by year-end.

Beijing’s fighter announcement suggests a serious failing in U.S. intelligence assessments, mocking a July 16 statement of U.S. Defense Secretary Robert Gates that China would have no fifth-generation fighters by 2020. Industrial competition looks more remote than strategic competition, however, since China will want to fill domestic requirements before offering the aircraft abroad, even if it judges export sales to be a wise policy.

The new fighter “is currently under development,” says Gen. He Weirong, deputy air force chief. “[It] may soon undertake its first flight, quickly enter flight testing and then quickly equip the forces.

“According to the current situation, [the entry into service] may take another eight to 10 years,” he adds.

No details of the aircraft were given, but it is almost certainly designed for supersonic cruise without afterburning. In April, Adm. Wu Shengli, the navy chief, listed supercruising fighters among equipment that his service needed. Notably, all the other equipment on his wish list looked quite achievable by the end of the next decade, matching the timing that the air force now suggests for the fighter.

China classifies aircraft of the F-22’s technology level as fourth-generation fighters, although they are called fifth-generation aircraft in the West. China’s current advanced fighter, the J-10, is locally called a third-generation aircraft, which in Chinese terms means that it is comparable with the Lockheed Martin F-16.

Work on “the fourth-generation aircraft is now proceeding intensely,” He says.

Whether the upcoming fighter is really comparable with the F-22 remains to be seen. Low radar reflectivity would not be surprising, since aircraft and missiles with stealthy shapes are now popping up in many countries, including South Korea as recently as last month (AW&ST Oct. 26-Nov. 2, p. 42). But sensor performance, information fusion and maximum supercruise speed would also be assessed critically in measuring a claim to have caught up with technology levels that the U.S. did not deploy until 2005.

The existence of a Chinese fifth-generation fighter, usually tagged J-XX, has been rumored for years without official confirmation.

If the aircraft does go into service before 2020, then at that time China may well have jumped past Britain, France and other Western European countries in terms of deployed, domestically developed combat-aircraft technology. That will depend on how quickly those countries move to field combat drones to replace current strike aircraft, says Andrew Brookes of the International Institute for Strategic Studies.

http://www.aviationweek.com/aw/generic/story_gener.....line=China

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Kineski J-7 u Pakistanskom RV (velika slika 875kb)

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mean_machine ::Kineski J-7 u Pakistanskom RV (velika slika 875kb)


11 miliona dolara +naoruzanje i rezervni dijelovi (to je oko dodatnih 25% cijene )
znaci oko; 14 miliona $ po komadu
jeftino, vrlo jeftino za letjelicu koja nije naravno Raptor F-22 ili Su-35
ali sigurno nije niti bezopasna sa solidnom elektronikom i oruzjem
pa za jedam Eurofighter ili F-22 mozes kupiti 10 J-7
po meni dobra opcija za drzave koje se ne rasipaju parama , i zele biti vise neovisne od mocnika i plus uspostavis saradnju sa Kinezima za buduce vojne projekte
i onako ce Kinezi biti sljedeca supersila
treba biti dobar sa njima !