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Navodno ulizivanje radi primanja u neke organizacije razlog za to sto se nejaca vojska i sto do sada nije potpisan ugovor.
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Citat:In the last quarter of 2016, KAI's offer consisted of providing the complete weapons system: 12 FA-50, equipment, spare parts package for two years, training of pilots and technical personnel as well as ground training systems (simulators ) The amount? Just under 500 million dollars. The agreement, which could include an Industrial Cooperation Program, was tied to the signing of the contract by the two parties, the establishment of a letter of credit by the Argentine Air Force and the payment of the advance established by KAI. Had the aforementioned administrative processes been completed, the FAA would have been in a position to receive its first FA-50 in this month of June ...
Regrettably, and as is well known, the acquisition of supersonic aircraft did not materialize at that time, nor would it be carried out in subsequent years, even though its purchase was contemplated in the Budget of the Ministries of Defense for the years 2017 and 2018 ( it was also for 2016 ). Despite the insistence of KAI , the negotiations would be diluted with the passage of time: The lack of local interest would be added to the economic instability of the last years, leaving all the intentions of re-equipment paralyzed or slowing down. The budget was always considered the great limitation ... but was it?
The Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development (OECD) groups 36 countries, one of its objectives being " ... to promote policies that improve the economic and social well-being of people around the world. "In the month of May, Argentina saw its entry into the organization postponed despite the country's strong commitment to align itself with OECD international practices. And it was the same organization that recently expressed the need for the country " needs more reforms to achieve a stronger and more inclusive economy "
It is necessary to provide this context of economic and political alignment to understand the reasons why the purchase of supersonic aircraft is considered detrimental to the National Executive , since it is perceived as an obstacle to Argentina's entry into the OECD. . Whether due to fear of veto, complacency or even more complex reasons, the weakening of national defense is assumed (because, as happens with airplanes, the same could be expected with submarines, ships or a specific defense policy). to safeguard relations with international economic organizations and the countries that comprise them.
Once again, the story repeats itself: the costs to pay will not only be in cash.
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Poslao: 05 Jul 2019 09:56
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Najzad, porodili se ?
10 FA-50 na odplatu na 10 godina
Argentina Will Buy 10 Supersonic Aircraft from South Korea for the Air Force
Citat:In a strategy aimed at restoring the situation of deterioration of the Armed Forces in a context of economic crisis, the Government has advanced in recent weeks in secret negotiations to buy 10 aircraft FA-50 Golden of South Korea for USD 200 million, which They will pay in a 10 year plan. .
Citat:In fact, Macri will meet today with the president of Guatemala Jimmy Morales to publicly formalize this sale of aircraft in the fifth of Olivos.
According to Infobae confirmed qualified sources of the Ministry of Defense and the Casa Rosada, the highlight of the government’s negotiations with South Korea for the purchase of the 10 aircraft FA-50 occurred last Friday in Japan, in the middle of the summit of the G20, where President Mauricio Macri spoke alone with his South Korean counterpart Moon Jae-in in a respite from the meeting of heads of state and reviewed the bilateral relations between which is the purchase by Argentina of supersonic aircraft from South Korea.
Macri and Moon Jae-in at the G20 summit (Reuters)
“The intention of the government is to acquire two FA-50 aircraft this year and another eight next year, which will give air superiority to our defense,” said an exalted government official.
http://www.wingsherald.com/argentina-will-buy-10-s.....air-force/
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Poslao: 05 Jul 2019 10:45
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^ 10 komada FA-50 za 200 mil. $. Gde to ima? Ostalo je donacija?
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Poslao: 05 Jul 2019 12:51
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320 miliona, kredit je vrednosti 200 miliona na 10 godina. Ostalih 120 miliona placaju. Prethodno se spominjao paket od 450 miliona za 12. To je po njihovim forumasima sa avioargentina...
Dva aviona ove godine se odnose na dva koja bi dosla sto pre i zapocela preobuku. Mada nevidim zasto bi neko doterao dva u Argentinu da vrsi preobuku, to se neradi tako. Uvek odu piloti i tehnicari na preobuku kod kupca gde postoji sva logistika.
Sve je to rekla kazala, njihove novine su blagi uzas...a i oni su nalik Indijcima, hoce svasta a kad bi moglo dzaba...
Jedino sigurno a sto se odavno zna je da iz RV-a hoce FA-50 i da Koreanci daju kredit.
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Poslao: 18 Jul 2019 21:26
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Ne znam ljudi, ali ako za te pare dolazi i makar po komplet naoružanja to je onda stvarno dobra cena. Poredim to sa bugarskom nabavkom. Za one pare mogli su imati tri pune eskadrile Korejanaca. Jedna LA i dve trenažno-borbene i još hrpa naoružanja. Dovoljno za vrlo pristojno vazduhoplovstvo koje će očuvati obuku i korak sa novim tehnologijama, imati dobar nalet i imati i više nego pristojnu platformu za Air policing. Ako dođe do rata od lovačke zaštite ionako nema ništa ni sa 8 F-16V kao i sa 12 FA-50 ali sa Korejancem se dobija odlična pristupačna obuka i odlična jurišna avijacija a ona je nama malima možda i bitnija od LA. Ako se ikad poželi i steknu finansijski uslovi za nabavku čistokrvnog lovca, nisi izgubio ništa, imaš obučene pilote koji vrlo brzo mogu da prihvate bilo koji novi lovac sa lakoćom a postojeća flota ti ostaje za obuku, patroliranje i jurišnu avijaciju. Vrlo interesantan avion za razmatranje.
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Poslao: 07 Okt 2019 12:19
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Kazu da su poslali zahtev rusima za 15+ MiG-29
Ali zbog izbora se sve odlaze
Аргентина отложила вопрос покупки у России МиГ-29 из-за предстоящих выборов
Citat:Аргентина отложила вопрос приобретения российских истребителей МиГ-29, после президентских выборов в стране в конце октября переговоры могут возобновиться, сообщил РИА Новости замдиректора российской Федеральной службы по военно-техническому сотрудничеству Анатолий Пунчук.
Ранее сообщалось, что Аргентина направила запрос на приобретение в России более 15 истребителей МиГ-29. Москва передала в ответ коммерческое предложение.
"У них впереди выборы, поэтому сегодня говорить о продвижении преждевременно. Пока они заявляют о заинтересованности. Они затормозились и не могут двигаться дальше, потому что понимают, что сегодняшние договоренности могут быть не реализованы дальше. Ну, это вполне логично", - сказал Пунчук.
На вопрос, может ли появится какая-либо конкретика в этом вопросе после президентских выборов в Аргентине, которые пройдут в конце октября, собеседник ответил утвердительно. Он добавил, что Россия готова к продолжению переговоров.
 https://www.aex.ru/news/2019/10/7/202967/
http://www.armstrade.org/includes/periodics/news/2.....tail.shtml
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