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Citat:Samo Mi-28 i 35 bi trebali da proizvedu za svoje potrebe 300+
Mi-35 su narucili samo 22 a proizvodnja Mi-28 ide sporo. Tesko da ce do 2020 biti 300 komada.
Citat:Modernizovace po 100 MiG-31 i Su-25. treba sacekati i videti koliko tacno MiG-29 i Su-27 ce modernizovati.
Leonardo postoji info da ce modernizacija MiG-31 ici jako sporo i da ce biti malo MiG-31BM. On pored Su-35S i PAK-FA nije vise prioritet.
To je za mene realno.
Za MiG-29 nema gotovo nikakvih naznaka da ce se ista modernizovati, samo remontovati. A sta mislis za Su-27? Pa potpisali ugovor za modernizaciju samo 12 aviona u narednih par godina.
200 Jak-130? Koliko su proizveli za poslednjie 2 godine?
Za sve ovo navedeno treba da se debelo uhodaju linije a ja sam skeptican.
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Poslao: 01 Dec 2010 21:56
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zixo ::Za sve ovo navedeno treba da se debelo uhodaju linije a ja sam skeptican.
Tacno. Zaboravio sam da dodam u prethodnoj poruci da im je potrebna armija radnika. Koja se nece stvoriti preko noci. Treba realno konstatovati koliki su im trenutni kapaciteti i kad je rec o izgradnji mornarice.
Pare nisu problem, za razliku od nas, imaju ih.
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Poslao: 01 Dec 2010 23:05
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Сада имају 13 МИГ31БМ,а потписано је модернизација за 100комада.
На теми о СУ30 има један линк где лепо пише да ће Русија увести 150 авиона Су30М2,мислим да сам га негде у рачунару ископирао па ћу видети ако могу да га нађем.
Су27 неће бити доведен н стандард СУ27СМ2 него на стандар Су27 СМ3.
Па треба ваљда прво да тестирају Су27СМ3 да виде како раде сви ситеми па онда да модернизују Су27 на тај стандар.
СУ34 је још у фази испитивања и још није ушао у сериску производњу,тако неведим ништа лоше у томе што су за3 године произвели свега 9 комада.
Миг29 или ће се ремонтовати или ће се увести неки мали број МИГ35 како би и биро МИГ могао да ради.
Dopuna: 01 Dec 2010 23:05
http://www.lenta.ru/news/2010/09/23/fighters/
Ево линк о набавци 150 комада СУ30М2
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Poslao: 01 Dec 2010 23:21
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Gde ovde pise 150 Su-30M2?
Navodno ce VVS kupiti 24 MiG-35 i 24 MiG-29KUB.
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VITEZFOREVER ::Link o završenim letnim ispitivanjima i uvođenju dvosedih - SU -30-M2 u Rusko vazduhoplovstvo:
 http://www.airforce-technology.com/news/news97693.html?WT.mc_id=DN_News
Sukhoi has completed flight tests of the first serial multirole double-seater Su-30M2 fighter jet for the Russian Air Force.
The test was carried out at the flight test station of the Komsomolsk-on-Amur aircraft production centre.
The Su-30M2 will be handed over to units of the air force after the successful completion of certification tests.
Based on the Su-30 fighter, the Su-30M2 is a long-range strike aircraft designed for precision strikes on ground and naval targets.
The Su-30M2 fighter was initially designed as a single-seat, twin-engine, air defence fighter to counter the US F-15 Eagle and Nato fighter aircraft.
Sukhoi was awarded a contract for four Su-30M2 aircraft by the Russian Ministry of Defence at the MAKS-2009 international aerospace show.
MOSCOW, Sept. 28 (UPI) -- Russia's Sukhoi aeronautical firm has completed its factory flight tests for its multi-role double seater Su-30M2 fighters.
The tests occurred at the flight test station of the Komsomolsk-on-Amur aircraft production association named after Yuri Gagarin, Itar-Tass reported Tuesday.
After receiving certification the Su-30M2 will be posted to units of the Russian air force.
Russia's Ministry of Defense signed contracts for four Su-30M2 aircraft at the international aerospace show MAKS-2009. During the air show, the Russian Ministry of Defense also signed contracts for 48 Su-35S fighters and 12 upgraded Su-27SM fighter jets.
The Su-30M2 is an upgraded strike aircraft, based on the Su-30 fighter design. The fighter was designed as a single-seat, twin-engine, long-range, air defense fighter to counter the U.S. F-15 Eagle and NATO fighter aircraft.
The Su-30 aircraft has proven a valuable export. China has purchased about 72 Su-30MKs, Su-30MKK or J-11s, which are now being delivered. A licensed production joint agreement has also been agreed signed by Russia and China under which 250 Su-30MKKs will be constructed by China's Shenyang Aircraft Corp.
_ Dopuna :
Sukhoi Su-30M2 fighters complete test flights:
Russia's Sukhoi aeronautical firm has completed its factory flight tests for its multi-role double seater Su-30M2 fighters.
The tests occurred at the flight test station of the Komsomolsk-on-Amur aircraft production association named after Yuri Gagarin, Itar-Tass reported Tuesday.
After receiving certification the Su-30M2 will be posted to units of the Russian air force.
Russia's Ministry of Defense signed contracts for four Su-30M2 aircraft at the international aerospace show MAKS-2009. During the air show, the Russian Ministry of Defense also signed contracts for 48 Su-35S fighters and 12 upgraded Su-27SM fighter jets.
The Su-30M2 is an upgraded strike aircraft, based on the Su-30 fighter design. The fighter was designed as a single-seat, twin-engine, long-range, air defense fighter to counter the U.S. F-15 Eagle and NATO fighter aircraft.
The Su-30 aircraft has proven a valuable export. China has purchased about 72 Su-30MKs, Su-30MKK or J-11s, which are now being delivered.
A licensed production joint agreement has also been agreed signed by Russia and China under which 250 Su-30MKKs will be constructed by China's Shenyang Aircraft Corp.
- Iz ranijih časopisa tt. prikaz i opis SU-30 MKM:
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su47berkut ::...линк о набавци 150 комада СУ30М2
Jos kad bi nesto razumeo bilo bi super (a Googleta prevod je gori od originala, tako da se nisam mnogo trudio). A od onoga sto sam razaznao, ne videh nigde da pise 150 Su-30M2.
Nisam nasao sta to novo donosi SM3, koje su razlike u odnosu na SM2, jel nesto mizerno ili ima stvarnih unapredjenja?
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U linku koji je postavio Berkut nigde nepise 150 Su-30M2 vec pise da ce Sukhoi za nekoliko godina proizvesti 500 aviona i da ce od toga za rusku avijaciju biti vise od 150 aviona, o kojima nigde nepise u tekstu  .
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Poslao: 02 Dec 2010 02:30
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Leonardo zar verzija Su-27SM2 ne bi trebalo isto da bude sa Irbis-E? Ako sam dobro zapamtio, trebalo bi.
Mozda me nisi dobro razumeo pitanje, posto sam izdvojio jedan deo Berkutovog posta vezan za Su-30. A posle sam ga pitao ono za unapredjenja, vezano za njegovu ispravku da ce Rusija narucivati Su-27SM3, a ne SM2 kako sam ja naveo.
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