Tender za nabavku novih visenamenskih aviona za UAE

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Tender za nabavku novih visenamenskih aviona za UAE

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Rafal skup, a onda razmatraju EF?!



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Erich Hartmann ::Rafal skup, a onda razmatraju EF?!

...pa dve muve odjednom - spustite svi cjenu pa da nešto dogovorimo...



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I jedni i drugi optimisti povodom prodaje svojih aviona UAE.
Citat:The UK and the UAE are in talks on Typhoon combat aircraft, Philip Dunne, UK minister of defence equipment, support and technology told the Gulf News.
Citat:A top French defence industry official said Sunday that talks to sell Rafale jet fighters to the UAE were "progressing well", expressing confidence that a deal could be reached with the Gulf state.

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UAE likely to buy 60 Eurofighter Typhoon jets

Citat:Abu Dhabi: The UAE is likely to purchase 60 Eurofighter Typhoon jets as a UAE military team had started negotiations with British company since December 2012 on “certain specifications to meet the requirements of the UAE Armed Forces”, a senior official said.

“The UAE Armed Forces are in talks with us for a purchase of 60 Typhoon fighters,” Joe Parker, Eurofighter Director of Export, told the Gulf News in an interview.

The list price of the fighter starts from Dh320 million (65 million euros).

“There are positive indications,” said Parker, without disclosing any information about the specifications required by the UAE and refusing to announce the price of each fighter as this is “governed by the significant modifications and specifications ordered by the UAE Armed Forces and the commercial side of depends on the package, the maintenance and training of UAE pilots”.


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TOP GUN :: The list price of the fighter starts from Dh320 million (65 million euros).

http://gulfnews.com/business/general/uae-likely-to.....-1.1149180


Kako cena Typhoona ide dole, kad uzimas Kolicinu.

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Ma ne gledaj to, bice to fina cena za 60 T-3 sa Aesa i svim gedzetima... Ipak su to Arapi, mada UAE izgleda ne baca vise toliko para kao neki, sobzirom da su se zalili na cenu Rafala.

Zahtevi za Rafal u UAE su posle Libije smanjeni pa im vise navodno ne traze motor klase 9 tona( bio bi potreban redizajn usisnika reda velicine 5 %) ali ostaje zahtev za vecim/jacim AESA, boljom elektronikom, dodatnim poboljsanjima SPECTRA i integracijom americkog harpuna umesto egzoseta. Prethodna procena cene razvoja koja je ukljucivala motor za tu flotu od 60 Rafal je bila 4-5 milijardi a bez motora navodno iznosi oko 3 milijarde evra. Finansiranje bi bilo obostrano, samo ne znam odnos...

Tajfun ima vec jace motore i veci/jaci AESA radar. Harpun nije integrisan ali je bas on planiran. T-3 donosi i unapredjenje DASS.

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Gulf States Squeeze Suppliers
Arrow http://www.defensenews.com/article/20130223/DEFREG.....dyssey=tab
Rafales vs. Typhoons
Citat:The UAE is looking to make its procurement process more professional and transparent, a defense expert said.
That may partly explain why the authorities sought to calm things down on the fighter aircraft tender to replace the Mirages.
At the show, Christian Mons, head of Conseil des Industries de Défense Françaises, a trade body, said Feb. 17 that a fighter decision could be made around 2015 or 2016, Agence France-Presse reported. That was because the earliest deliveries of the UAE’s Mirage 2000 would be 30 years old by then.
Other signs point to the UAE picking the Eurofighter, a consultant said.

Citat:“It looks like Eurofighter will win out,” said Theodore Karasik, a director with consultancy Inegma.
The UAE’s purchase of Fire Storm from Rockwell Collins UK is a clue, as the targeting system is designed to work with the Eurofighter. London wants a semi-permanent base in the UAE and is deploying four minehunters and two frigates in the gulf, all of which helps to sell the Eurofighter, Karasik said.

Sve od poćetka.

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aerodrom ::TOP GUN :: The list price of the fighter starts from Dh320 million (65 million euros).

http://gulfnews.com/business/general/uae-likely-to.....-1.1149180


Kako cena Typhoona ide dole, kad uzimas Kolicinu.


To im je uvek manje vise cena. Ali to je samo za letelicu. Ono sta natera cenu do 120+ miliona su ugovori za naoruzanje, odrzavanje, obuku i delove.

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Smatram da je kod Rafala najveća prepreka integrisanje AIM-9 i AIM-120 raketa, SAD to neće dozvoliti. Pošto UAE več imaju F-16 u naoružanju sa istim raketama. Dok EF2000 nosi sve rakete i evropske i amerićke. Znači sve što imaju arapi u arsenalu i od Mirage 2000. Jedini problem bi bio sa Mica raketama. Ali one bi se mogle prodati zajedno sa Mirage 2000 koje namerava UAE odprodati. Možda bi se mogle Mice "na crno" integrisati sa EF2000, pošto Francuzi nisu toliko utjecajni kao SAD, a zavisi i od ugovora kod prodaje Mica ima li nekih prepreka.

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Па УАЕ Миражи 2000 носе ракете ваздух-ваздух које носи и Рафал. А нпр. Метеор ће бити заједнички и за ЕФ и за Рафал а онда АИМ-120 није потребна. Што се тиче осталог наоружања, Рафал је тренутно комплетнији авион од ЕФ. Да ли ће се то променити док УАЕ буде изабрао нови авион остаје да видимо. И питање је да ли ће УАЕ желети да изврши унифицирање наоружања новог борбеног авиона са њиховим Ф-16.

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