Virtuelni dogfight

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Не пратим ни Рафал, ни Јурофајтер, али ово ми је привукло пажњу, па постављам овде:Citat:Flying & fighting in the Dassault Rafale: Interview with a Rafale combat veteran

From the perilous deck of an aircraft carrier, Pierre-Henri ‘Até’ Chuet took the Dassault Rafale M into combat in Iraq. We spoke to him to find out more about the Rafale...

You’re burning less fuel in afterburner at high altitudes than Typhoon does without the afterburner...

Typhoon is a joke, very easy to shoot...

... how confident would you be fighting against a Typhoon? And why?

“I don’t know why they’re compared so often – it’s really not the same design, ideas or philosophy. We’re a truly omnirole platform. Typhoons are great, they like to use their big engines at 40,000 feet. I can’t count how many times I’ve shot down Typhoons at 45,000 feet in the contrails. And my radar off, everything off, I was coming from 100 feet below, supersonic in the climb from below. Absolutely undetected. So I have absolutely no fear of the Typhoons. Both the tactics used by the Typhoons, the agility and the cockpit of the aircraft make it easier for us to take the advantage — basically we have better fusion of the sensors — so we can be way more aggressive in terms of tactics. It’s a great aircraft at high level, but we’re not dumb enough to try to fight Typhoons at 50,000 feet or 45,000 feet. We’re going to put them outside their comfort zone. Against devious tactics. Now if you want to rate a Typhoon with AMRAAMs against a Rafale at 50,000 ft, then, yeah, Typhoon is going to have better performances for sure. But as a Rafale pilot, I’m stupid if I take him on like that, so I’m going to move the combat a bit. I'll fake a combat at 50,000 feet and I’m going to send a guy sneakily low level to surprise the Typhoon, it’s more easy than you think!”... https://hushkit.net/2019/11/11/flying-fighting-the.....t-veteran/

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Те хвалоспеве француских пилота о Рафалу треба узети са великом резервом.

Хвалили су се и како су редовно на вежбама обарали и Ф-22. Што ние културно....

А све у циљу рекламе, пропаганде. То наравно сви раде али ето баш после силних текстова по часописима и новинама, и наравно агресивне промоције француских политичара, напокон су успели да продају Рафал. Знамо сви да много година нико није желео да га купи.

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Ма, наравно... него, можда ја нисам обраћао пажњу, али никад раније нисам видео тако отворено опањкавање, док са друге стране, лик прича како је летеоCitat:''... Against F-16, against Typhoon, against Super Hornets. Against Harrier. Against Alpha Jet. Against Mirage 2000...''

…which was the most challenging?

''The F-16 is pretty cool. Typhoon is a joke, very easy to shoot. F-16 actually was a good surprise actually, I found it to be a pretty good aircraft. I think the most challenging was the F-16, it’s a pretty small jet so it’s easy to lose sight of it. So I think that was the big one. The Harrier can really turn around pretty fast, so you have to play it very close so you have to be careful with that. And with the Alpha Jet don’t go into a slow fight with it. It can manoeuvre and do some rolls at pretty low speed, some barrel rolls at pretty low speeds so you really want to pay attention. You can easily be tricked at low speed by an Alpha Jet. So you want to keep your energy high''...

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Napisano: 15 Nov 2019 16:38

To je do coveka...

A ima i ovog sto Zixo kaze, jedno vreme su bili nemoguci na netu sa hvalisanjem, iz frizidera su iskakali

Dopuna: 15 Nov 2019 17:00

Ovo njegovo mi deluje kao scenario neke vezbe ali cak i tu zavijeno priznaje drugu cinjenicu.

Tajfun je napravljen za sto kazu "high and fast" njegov plafon leta je cak 15 000 stopa veci od Rafala, ima jace motore, fizicki veci radom u koji ce uvek stati fizicki veci i jaci radar. Sa jacim radarom, vecim plafonom leta i vecom brzinom ista raketa ima bolje performanse, u stilu MIG-31. Nije isto kada Tajfun ispaljuje BVR raketu sa 60 000 stopa superksrtareci na 1.2 maha i drugi avion koji leti na 45 000 i 0.8 maha.

E sad ako ja prezivim da me on neobori u BVR ja cu...

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Onaj dio sa "sneaking" si valjda previdio . Jedan glumi metu i "vuče" tajfuna ispod 40k feet - a onda : game over. Ako upali naravno. Ako ne... Valjda i jedni i drugi usavršavaju taktiku. Iako me malo golica jedna stvar. Vježbaju jedni protiv drugih - ok. Ali to nije realan protivnik. Jedan su35 ne može ništa simulirati bojim se

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A Tajfun leti sam

Kazem, deluje kao scenario sa vezbe a na vezbama se vezba svasta, cak i namerno se jednoj strani vezu ruke, isprobava se svasta...i nekada dobiju neocekivani rezultati.

Vidis da i tu priznaje opet da pokusavaju da im doskoce, a to nebi radio bez razloga...

Kad smo vec kod visina i Tajfuna, reci pilota F-16 su slicne, da mogu da se bore do 10 000 m, preko toga nemaju sanse. Postavljao sam ja tekstove ovde samo davno.

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Tajfun naoruzan Meteor raketom i AESA radarom je rak rana za svaki avion 4te generacije.

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Citat: Хвалили су се и како су редовно на вежбама обарали и Ф-22. Што ние културно....

To je tako tipično francuski.

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Citat:The following table shows what is in operational service as of late 2019 based on best available open source material.



Notes: Gripen has completed integration work with a cruise missile but this has not been seen on frontline aircraft. HMS/D may be at early stage of use with Qatari Rafale but no photos have emerged to support this. EW DRFM status is a guess based on available open source information but is most questionable. Rafale can access IR imagery from Mica IR missiles, dual waveband DDM-NG (missile warning system) and IR channel of Talios pod (Nav FLIR/IRST) and close to IR bandwidths from optical system. Much test and integration work has been done on Typhoon AESA.

https://hushkit.net/2019/11/21/eurocanards-compared/

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