Laki prenosni raketni sistemi PVO

2

Laki prenosni raketni sistemi PVO

offline
  • Pridružio: 23 Dec 2006
  • Poruke: 12609

@zgembo

FIM-92 Stinger nije imao duplo navodjenje (UV i IC). Stinger-RMP jeste.

Dok je 9K38 Igla je imala duplo navodjenja a samo je dve godine mladja od FIM-92 Stinger.

Sto se tice elektronike Stinger-RMP (novija verzija koja ima dual seeker) ogranicen je sa malom RAM memorijom. Verovatno da Igla-S je znatno bolja po tom pitanju.

Postoji prototip Stinger sa FPA senzorom, novim raketnim motorom i naravno novom elektronikom. Takav sistem navodno moze da dejstvuje protiv ciljeva koji lete do 7500m Shocked ali nije uveden u naoruzanje.



Registruj se da bi učestvovao u diskusiji. Registrovanim korisnicima se NE prikazuju reklame unutar poruka.
offline
  • Toni  Male
  • SuperModerator
  • Pridružio: 18 Jun 2008
  • Poruke: 31438

^^^Mistral je isto dobar,starije verzije Igle u poredjenju sa evropskim Mistralom su bile slabije u pogledu velicine bojeve glave,dometa a otpornije na ometanje.

Inace nova Igla-S je odlicna,cak su tvorci dobili nagradu za razvoj.Domet je podignut na 6 000 m.Ima novi tragac i digitalni sistem vodjenja koji omogucava jos bolje ceono gadjanje kao i vecu bojevu glavu, koja vise fragmentise prilikom eksplozije i ima novi laserski blizinski upaljac,tako da je i verovatnoca pogotka veca.Lakse koriscenje nocu jer poseduje night vision.Sama raketa je aerodinamicki bolja od prethodnih.

Ameri koriste Stinger Block I a planiran je jos polovinom 90-ih i razvijen je Stinger Block II sa FPA senzorom ,IRR tragacem,to ni jedna Igla nema.Domet je podignut na 7 500 + metara.Nesto je taj program pre koju godinu pauziran,neznam sta je tacno sa tim.



offline
  • Pridružio: 23 Dec 2006
  • Poruke: 12609

Zanimljivo da iako je Mistral postao operativan pet godina posle 9K38 Igla sistema nije imao duplo navodjenje vec samo IC navodjenje.

offline
  • Pridružio: 05 Feb 2009
  • Poruke: 578

Руси су увек имали другачији приступ проблемима, тако да осусутво неких трагача аналогних америчким ништа не значи. Њихова сврха је да максимално смање утицај ометања на ракету, а руси су то на Игли постигли на другу ефикснији и поузданији начин. Игла има систем навођења са алгоритмом, који наводи ракету на средину авиона ,а не његов издувник, да не спомињем, да је упаљач на Игли С , без премца у свету и да се поред бојеве главе активира и експлозија горива

offline
  • Artiljerac
  • Pridružio: 07 Nov 2009
  • Poruke: 3123

Mistreal 2 traži 2 operatera, što je glavna mana.

Dopuna: 12 Apr 2010 22:15

Evo južnokorejci tvrde da su povoljniji i bolji od francuza i amera! Mada kada pogledaš cenu vidiš da nešto ne valja tu. Mislim da su po dometu makar br.1

KP-SAM Shingung

[Link mogu videti samo ulogovani korisnici]

In late 2005, the KP-SAM Shingung entered service with the South Korean Army, after being in development for nearly 8 years. The South Korean Army has ordered some 2000 units to be delivered in the near future.


The missile features integrated IFF systems, night and adverse weather capabilities, a two-colour (IR/UV) infrared seeker to aid in negating infrared countermeasures (IRCM) and a proximity-fuse warhead. During development tests the missile scored a 90% hit ratio.

According to Agency for Defense Development officials, the missile is superior to the American FIM-92 Stinger or the French Mistral in hit probability, price and portability. [1] It had been involved in a missile test where the Shingung's missile made impact on a low-flying target.[2]



KP-SAM / KPSAM New Bow (Shingung / Shingoong)

The New Bow (Shingung, Shin-Gung or Shin-Kung, possibly God's Bow or Divine Bow) is a shoulder-launched missile targeting helicopters, or low-flying fighter and transport aircraft. The KP-SAM [Janes claimes was recently redesignated as the NEX1 Future Chiron (Singung), but no one else seems to agree], is a two-man, fire and forget system that is fired in the same way as the Mistral, which is mounted on a tripod. The 10 kilogram missile features an integral Identification Friend or Foe (IFF) system, full night and adverse weather capabilities, and a two-color infrared seeker to aid in negating countermeasures. It has a 7 km maximum target range and flies at a maximum altitude of 3.5 km and maximum speed of Mach 2.1.

The Singung is designed to automatically explode against a target flying within a radius of 1.5 m, shattering into hundreds of pieces while shooting down a target. It is mainly intended to bring down enemy aircraft and helicopter that infiltrate at low altitude. It boasts more than 90 percent-plus hit-ratio accuracy and comes at a unit price of W180 million. Only four countries including the United States, Russia and France, have that kind of portable surface-to-air missile systems. According to the Defense Ministry, the missile is lighter and more accurate than the Stinger missile of the U.S., Russia’s Igla and France’s Mistral.

The KP-SAM program was originally aimed at developing a new man-portable SAM for the protection of troops in the foreword area. However, by 2003 the delivery of the Igla SAMs from Russia in payment for Russian debts to Korea appear to have solved the problem. The primary difference between the Russian Igla system and the KP-SAM is the IFF system mounted forward of the launcher.

Development of the Chiron (Singung) man-portable surface-to-air missiles system (MANPADS SAM) is believed to have commenced during 1995 when the system was then known as the KP-SAM. The portable anti-aircraft missile Singung was developed by the Agency for Defense Development (ADD)over eight years starting in 1995 with a W70 billion [$71 million] budget. In late 2005 it entered service with the South Korean Army, after being in development for nearly 8 years. The South Korean Army had ordered some 2000 units to be delivered by LG Innotek Co. Ltd.

Series production was expected to commence during 2004, with deployment and IOC during the same year, however, extended trials meant that the system was not ready for series production and deployment before September 2005. Trials during the research and development phase were carried out using both fixed and rotary wing targets. The program was originally aimed at developing a new man-portable SAM for the protection of troops in the foreword area. The seeker technology was Russian, from the Leningrad Optical Mechanical Association (LOMO)- (po ovome stoji sve što je rekao djole81) but that the control section, warhead and motor were of a South Korean design.

[Link mogu videti samo ulogovani korisnici]

offline
  • Pridružio: 01 Jun 2006
  • Poruke: 2061
  • Gde živiš: Malo tamo malo vamo

aramis s ::@zgembo
grešiš u vezi IFF.Imali su ga i za ranije modele



Kako rekoh ne sjecam se MANPAD verzije igle da ima integrisan IFF, ali OK ako ima utoliko jos bolje. E sad ne iz zlobe nego cisto podsjecam na prosli sukob u gruziji kada je oboreno nekoliko Su 25 koliko se sjecam od sopstvene PVO cini mi se da je bilo da su oboreni sa MANPAD ali nisam siguran je li bas igla ili neki drugi sistem bio u upotrebi...da li ima kakvih info o tome cime su bili oboreni?

Dopuna: 12 Apr 2010 22:49

mean_machine ::@zgembo

FIM-92 Stinger nije imao duplo navodjenje (UV i IC). Stinger-RMP jeste.

Dok je 9K38 Igla je imala duplo navodjenja a samo je dve godine mladja od FIM-92 Stinger.

Sto se tice elektronike Stinger-RMP (novija verzija koja ima dual seeker) ogranicen je sa malom RAM memorijom. Verovatno da Igla-S je znatno bolja po tom pitanju.

Postoji prototip Stinger sa FPA senzorom, novim raketnim motorom i naravno novom elektronikom. Takav sistem navodno moze da dejstvuje protiv ciljeva koji lete do 7500m Shocked ali nije uveden u naoruzanje.


Pa pricamo o stingeru u svim varijantama kao i o igli u svim varijantama tako i o RMP varijanti, inace imas i Blok 1 koji je u upotrebi i blok 2 stingera koji je jos na cekanju radi smanjenja sredstava za odbranu, to je taj potonji sto govoris o njemu.

online
  • član biblioteke
  • Pridružio: 18 Jul 2007
  • Poruke: 28837
  • Gde živiš: iznad smoga Beograda

@zgembo
za Gruziju stvarno neznam, ali 1L14 je razvijen još 1972 koliko mi se čini.

offline
  • Pridružio: 01 Jun 2006
  • Poruke: 2061
  • Gde živiš: Malo tamo malo vamo

Dejan84 ::Problem je kod IFF što ne možeš koristit npr. protiv apača, jer koliko znam te rakete su čipovane, tako da bi ja radije uzeo Iglu.
Igla-s ima i veći domet.


Nema nikakve veze IFF hoces li stinger koristiti protiv apaca ili cega hoces...Na stingeru IFF imaju dvije opcije :
-prijateljski
-nepoznat
uopste ne sugerise da je letjelica koja se nisani neprijateljska...

offline
  • S-lash 
  • Legendarni građanin
  • Pridružio: 09 Apr 2008
  • Poruke: 4915
  • Gde živiš: Slovenija

Afgani nisu mogli koristiti zarobljene ruske LPRSje na ruskim avionima i helikopterima.

Sjecam se ovoga iz jednog dokumentarca

offline
  • Pridružio: 01 Jun 2006
  • Poruke: 2061
  • Gde živiš: Malo tamo malo vamo

aramis s ::@zgembo
za Gruziju stvarno neznam, ali 1L14 je razvijen još 1972 koliko mi se čini.

Mozda za 9K34 ako je u tom vremenskom intervalu. Ok ne dvojim.

Dopuna: 12 Apr 2010 23:15

S-lash ::Afgani nisu mogli koristiti zarobljene ruske LPRSje na ruskim avionima i helikopterima.

Sjecam se ovoga iz jednog dokumentarca


jedini nacin da ih nisu mogli koristiti je zato sto su bili van domasaja posto sistem "neda" ispaljenje, a posto su mogli zarobiti neku noviju varijantu...al i to mi je cudno jer talibani nisu imali RV pa nesto mi cudno sto ce rusima MANPAD...mozda radi pakistana...Ok.

Ko je trenutno na forumu
 

Ukupno su 1176 korisnika na forumu :: 118 registrovanih, 10 sakrivenih i 1048 gosta   ::   [ Administrator ] [ Supermoderator ] [ Moderator ] :: Detaljnije

Najviše korisnika na forumu ikad bilo je 3195 - dana 09 Nov 2023 14:47

Korisnici koji su trenutno na forumu:
Korisnici trenutno na forumu: 1MAP, A.R.Chafee.Jr., alberto, aleksmajstor, alternator, Apok, aramis s, Arhiv, bavar357, Betty25, Bobrock1, bojcistv, Bokiboks, Borski1977, Bubimir, Centauro, CikaKURE, darionis, Dejan_vw, del boy, DH, Dimitrise93, Django777, djukapfc, Doca, Drakce65, dusanobr, ElvisP, esko_hz, Ezbuck, feanor, Feller, Flanker-G, Fog of War, Frunze, Georgius, Gheljda, goxin, GveX, Hardenberg, ikan, Insan, ivan_8282, Jakonjveliki, Jaz, Koridor, Kosmos Banja Luka, Koča, Kubovac, kunktator, kutija11, laurusri, Lazarus, lcc, LostInSpaceandTime, Lotus, Lucije Kvint, M74AB3, macak44, Marko987, mercedesamg, Metanoja, mexo, milimoj, MILO-VAN, Milos ZA, Milos1389, mkukoleca, mrkanidja, mushroom, neko_drugi, nenorodjo, nikoladim, Nmr, nnnnnnnnnn, novator, obsc, oldtimer, ozzy, Papadubi, pein, peradetlić, Peruta, ping15, Podljub, Povratak1912, raykan, Sančo, sistem22, smerch, starlights, stibium51, styg, suponik, tamno.nebo, Tas011, Titan, trajkoni018, Tumansky, Vatreni Zmaj, vensla, Viktor Petrenko, virked, Vlada78, vladetije, vladulns, VojvodaMisic, volimpivuvolimrakiju, vuk77, Yugol33, zdrebac, zokizemun, zoran77, Zorge, Zuna77, ZZZ, Živanski, šumar bk2