A što se tiče naših u borbenoj misiji u Maliju ili u francuskoj Takubi iliti Sablji samo da svi u Srbiji budemo spremni i na gubitke (pogledati iskustva Estonaca a o Francuzima da ne govorimo).
Tacno tako, nema nista glamurozno u tim operacijama, to je muka teska od vojnickog posla.
Nit ima protivnika (ratujes sa gomilom drogiranih ludaka naoruzanih i razbacanih po pustinji i spremnih na sve), nit ima podrske lokalne populacije, nit ima lokalne vlasti tamo na koju mozes da se oslonis, nit ima politicke podrske iz maticnih zemalja, publika u tim zemljama nece ni da ima pojma da ste tamo, ili ce da ih boli uvo, ili ce da vas stavlja na stub srama kao pse rata.
Tamo ce da se gine od mina i IED, ili od snajpera ili nekakvog samoubice, protivnika ako vidite jednom u turnusu, u nekom grmlju u nekoj pustinji. Nagledacete se leseva zena i djece i spaljenih koliba od blata. A vraticete se sa takvim post traumatskim sindromom da mozete odma u invalidsku penziju.
Americka patrola u Nigeru, ni jedan nije pretekao. Kliknite na link watch on youtube
Jos je ovo ispoliran i umiven video za CBS News, tj za americku publiku. Originalni video ne znam da li sam nesto mucnije odgledao u zivotu
Slažem se u potpunosti. Snimak iz Nigera je star dvije, tri godine, mislim da su im 4 SOF poginula za 15 minuta...
Ako nam je "interes" da šaljemo vojnike u Avganistan Afrike, onda neko treba da bude spreman i na posledice. Takuba nije EU, NATO ili UN misija nego Francuska okuplja "koaliciju voljnih". Rumuni poslaše 50 vojnika, Italijani 200, Šveđani 150, Grci šalju padobrance (ne znam broj). Koliko se zna od ne-EU članica Ukrajina, Srbija, moguće i Gruzija su voljne da "daju doprinos". Ali, ponavljam, ovo nije mirovna misija nego podrška francuskoj vojnoj intervenciji u Africi koja traje od 2013. godine i "Servala"...
Inače, 51 procenat Francuza je bio protiv "Barkhana" ali šta ćeš, jače su kolonijalne snohvatice, čežnje i tlapnje.
Evo trenutne strukture Takube, inače sve kasni više od pola godine, Francuzima se žuri
"Current Support
Czech Republic – 60 Special Forces raiders from October 2020 until the end of 2022 at a cost of 25 million euros. These special forces will be supporting the EUTM.
Denmark – Participation from the Hunter Corps and the Frogman Corps is expected as well as two EH101 helicopters and 1-2 staff officers for Operation Barkhane.
Estonia – So far sent 30 Estonians based at Gao and attached to the 4th Light Reconnaissance and Intervention Unit of the Malian Army.
France – Providing 300 of its 600 members of the Task Force Takuba. They are divided between Gao with 60 members and the rest at Menaka.
Sweden – Helicopter QRF that can be deployed to manage unforeseen events, contributing with 150 members unit. It will be ready by 31st December 2021. It will use Black Hawk helicopters (Helikopter 16) as well as C-130 transport aircrafts (Hercules). If needed, it can also add an extra 100 members and will also provide surgical elements from its base in Menaka.
Limited Support
Belgium – Will support Takuba by sending three officers to headquarters.
The Netherlands – Deploy one or two staff officers to headquarters to be informed of the force and developments on the ground whilst it prioritises the current deployment in Iraq and Afghanistan until early 2022.
Germany – Has declined support with any troops but limits its contribution to political support.
UK – Currently deploy Chinooks in Mali as well as planning to deploy 250 forces to strengthen MINSUMA but limit its support to Task Force Takuba as a political one.
Norway – Despite being one of the first countries to promise a contribution to the project, withdrew its pledge to send troops. It feared this deployment would interfere with future deployments to Iraq or Afghanistan in 2022 and stretch its military capacity. Adding to that, it lacks the support of the Norwegian Storting, the supreme legislature in Norway.
Portugal – Will offer aircraft for MINUSMA and will have presence in Task Force Takuba as well as EUTM Mali. The deployment will be limited to two liaison officers in N’Djamena from January to December 2021 and 12 special forces personnel in Mali, for a period of six months still to be defined.
New Support
Greece – will send the paratroopers ETA (Idiko Timima Alexiptotiston) of the 2nd Regiment of the Greek Army and MEDEVAC air-lift capabilities.
Italy – The contingent is expected to consist of 100 men, equipped with twenty vehicles and 8 helicopters: four AH-129D Mangusta attack aircraft and four NH-90 transport helicopters. The personnel could be provided by the 9th Parachute Assault Regiment Col Moschin, the GOI (Gruppo Operative Incursori) of the Navy, the GIS (Gruppo di Intervento Speciale) of the Carabinieri and the 17th Stormo Incursori of the Air Force. Teams of the 4th Monte Cervino Alpine Parachute Regiment and 185th MMR Foigore (Reconnaissance Regiment for Target Acquisition) could also be deployed. This is expected after the Italian-French summit in Naples at the end of February, having a similar approach to the Task Forces in Afghanistan. Italy is committing 15.6 million in the project, 5 of which will be used in action during 2021."
Dejane idealna prilika da se proba i rekčamira domaće vozilo ako ima falinki da se mogu i otkloniti a nadajmo se da nema.
Slažem se sa Babarogom krvava rabota videćemo šta će biti od svega toga.
Kul je to razmisljati da li ce salju HMMWV ili Milosa, mozda Mi-17 ili Mi-35, Orla ili MiG-a, sta cemo sa individualno opremom i uniformama? Koliko ja ovde vidim, mozemo samo da se skupimo mi sa foruma i kupimo im opremu, posto ce da mucenici idu tamo u KombiLezonu digiligi M-10 i spravi za mucenje PBB M-12
Prvo transport da se reši nebi trebalo puno da ide naših bar se nadam da neće opasan je to teren vačja se imati solidna zaštita eto prilike i za MRAP M20 da se testira, a do polaska će valda oprema da se obezbedi kako zaštitna (panciri i šlemovi) tako uniforme i naoružanje. Eto prilike da probaju SCAR u realnim uslovima bar toga imaju a i lakše je za logistiku jer svi su iz EU gde se koristi 5.56.
Faki-Valjevo ::Kakav problem ima sadasnja oprema,jer nije dovoljno kul ili je nisi vidjao po stranim sajmovima?
Pitaj Voboa da li vidja opremu koja se prikazuje po SDPR poselima i vasarima, e to je problem
