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Mixelotti ::U principu nismo off .
Razgovaramo o formaciji - u temi imamo najnoviji primer .
Iznosimo mišljenja kako je moglo , kako bi trebalo itd.
Najbolje je što se u SAD vodi kampanja za vraćanje regrutne vojske i napuštanja profesionalne, pošto gro zadataka po svetu u stvari obavlja nacionalna garda, dok je broj vojnika u Iraku premašio broj koji mogo da odvoje profesionalne vojske.
U stvari pametni ljudi su sagledali i shvatili da je kvalitet i obučenost regruta i američkog profesionalca jednaka, a profesionalcu moraš da daješ platu, za isti onaj posao koji regrut mora da obavlja po sili zakona.
Evo isto i dilema Rusije
"Dok Rusija ide ka profesionalizaciji, Amerika se vraća regrutnom sastavu"
WHILE RUSSIA IS TRYING TO MAKE ITS MILITARY PROFESSIONAL, SOME US POLITICIANS ARE SUGGESTING A RETURN TO CONSCRIPTION. GERMANY, ON THE CONTRARY, INTENDS TO CUT TROOP STRENGTH AND GIVE UP CONSCRIPTION FOR PROFESSIONAL RECRUITMENT. HOWEVER, DESPITE EXTERNAL DIFFERENCES, THE WORLD'S STRONGEST ARMIES ARE BASED ON SIMILAR PRINCIPLES.
The United States has been invited to return to a conscription- based military. Senator Ernest Hollings (Dem.) has tabled a bill in Congress on restoring compulsory military service, suggesting conscription of men and women from 18 to 26. Some other members of Congress back this initiative as well. They believe that the number of poor, Black, and Hispanic American soldiers and officers taking part in military conflicts far exceeds the number of white, high-income soldiers. But everyone would have to serve under a conscription system, regardless of skin color or income.
http://www.cdi.org/russia/243-12.cfm
Dopuna: 04 Apr 2007 2:25
No attempt to reinstate conscription, since the effort to enforce Selective Service registration law was abandoned in 1986, has been able to attract much support in the legislature or among the public.[18] However since early 2003, when the Iraq War appeared imminent, there have been a number of attempts through legislation and through campaign rhetoric to begin a new public conversation on the topic.
In 2003, several liberal Democrat congressmen (Charles Rangel D-NY, James McDermott D-WA, John Conyers D-MI, John Lewis D-GA, Pete Stark D-CA, Neil Abercrombie D-HI) introduced legislation that would draft both men and women into either military or civilian government service, should there be a draft in the future. The Republican majority killed the proposed legislation by bringing it up for a vote in the House of Representatives. It was defeated by a vote of 402-2.
In 2004 the platforms of both the Democratic and Republican parties opposed military conscription, but neither party moved to end draft registration. John Kerry in one debate criticized Bush's policies, "You've got stop-loss policies so people can't get out when they were supposed to. You've got a backdoor draft right now."
This statement was in reference to the Department of Defense use of "stop-loss" orders, which have extended the Active Duty periods of some military personnel. All enlistees, upon entering the service, volunteer for a minimum eight-year Military Service Obligation (MSO). This MSO is split between a minimum active duty period, followed by a reserve period where enlistees may be called back to active duty for the remainder of the 8 years.[19] Some of these active duty extensions have been for as long as two years. The Pentagon stated that as of August 24, 2004, 20,000 soldiers, sailors, airmen, and marines had been affected.[20] As of January 31, 2006 it has been reported that more than 50,000 soldiers and reservists had been affected.[21]
Mentions of the draft during the Presidential campaign led to a resurgence of anti-draft and draft resistance organizing.[22] One poll of young voters in October 2004 found that 29% would resist if drafted.[23]
In November 2006, New York Democratic Representative Charles Rangel again called for the draft to be reinstated.[24] Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi has rejected this proposal.
On December 19, 2006 Bush announced that he was considering sending more troops to Iraq. The next day, the Selective Service System's director for operations and chief information officer, Scott Campbell, announced plans for a "readiness exercise" to test the system's operations in 2009, for the first time since 1998.[25]
On December 21, Veterans Affairs Secretary Jim Nicholson, when asked by a reporter whether the draft should be reinstated to make the military more equal, said, "I think that our society would benefit from that, yes sir." Nicholson proceeded to relate his experience as a company commander in an infantry unit which brought together soldiers of different socioeconomic backgrounds and education levels, noting that the draft "does bring people from all quarters of our society together in the common purpose of serving." Nicholson later issued a statement saying he does not support reinstating the draft.[26]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conscription_in_the_U.....since_2003
Dopuna: 17 Apr 2007 0:48
Ljudi ovo je korpus:
Brigada je, najvećim delom, formirana od ljudstva i sredstava
ratne tehnike jedinica koje su locirale na prostoru zapadne Srbije,
a to su 252. oklopna brigada (Kraljevo), 37. motorizovana
brigada (Raška), 20. motorizovana brigade (Valjevo), 401. artiljerijsko-
raketna brigada PVO (Jakovo), 305. inžinjerijska brigada
(Obrenovac), 524. logistička baza (Kragujevac), 24. bataljon
za specijalna dejstva (Kragujevac) i 228. bataljon veze (Gornji Milanovac).
Mnogi od tih sastava imaju dugu i bogatu tradiciju i zavidno
borbeno i mirnodopsko iskustvo, što će se, po rečima pukovnika
Vidoja Živkovića, optimalno integrisati u organizaciju i
funkcionisanje Druge brigade Kopnene vojske.
Kako Druga brigada KoV izgleda danas?
Komanda brigade, komandni bataljon, artiljerijsko-raketni
divizion PVO, tenkovski, mehanizovani, samohodno-haubički artiljerijski,
inžinjerijski i logistički bataljon nalaze se u garnizonu
Kraljevo, u Valjevu lociraju pešadijski bataljon i divizion
SVLR, dok su dva bataljona (pešadijski i mehanizovani) smeštena
u Raškoj i Novom Pazaru. Već samo nabrajanje jedinica ukazuje na
borbenu vrednost Druge brigade, čija Komanda na direktnoj vezi
ima čak 11 jedinica ranga samostalni bataljon ili divizion.
Vremena se, očigledno, menjaju. Ne tako davno na prostoru
zapadne Srbije postojale su dve operativne komande (Užički i
Kragujevački korpusi), a danas odgovornost leži na jednoj združeno-
taktičkoj komandi. Ipak, zabrinutosti nema. Vlada uverenje da
je Komanda Brigade projektovana tako da može uspešno komandovati
potčinjenim sastavima.
http://www.odbrana.mod.gov.rs/odbrana038/16-18.pdf
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E pošto ima opreme za jedno odeljenje on ima bar 8 ruku za 6 AP, jedan PM i jedan snajper, ma ima još koju jer mora i da puni oružje, ima tu i poneka zolja, pa sredstva veze... Snage ima bar za tri-četiri Ramba. Bogte, pa on me podseća na hobotnicu 
