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GHADIR je izgleda poboljšana Oborona-14 iz opšte familije Lena. 1200 km je instrumentalni domet ali svakako da je veliki pomak sa 800 km instrumentalnog na 1200. Shit je što je radar praktično nepokretan uostalom i mi smo imali jedan takav i naravno ugasili su ga.
Nisam siguran koliko bi onakav OTH radar bio upotrebljiv za PVO. Zbog zapdnih i južnih i jug-jugoistočnih planina on bi imao ogromne senke, jedino da ga postave na ono gorje iznad Teherna ka Kaspijskom jezeru ali ionako će biti vidljiv iz satelita i ...



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Iran je ogromna država i moraju da imaju radare velikog dometa u sistemu VOJIN kao uostalom i sve ozbiljne države,e sad druga je stvar što takvi radari zahtjevaju i sami PVO zaštitu i naravno da u borbenim uslovima su osjetljivi kao u ostalom većina radara velikog dometa,uostalom u borbenim uslovima od radara velikog dometa i nema koristi u smislu navodjenja PVO sistema prvenstveno zbog nepreciznosti tako da je njihova vrijednost u praćenju neprijateljske aktivnosti u njihovom slućaju persijskog zaliva,baza u državama PGCC itd,oni sa ovim radarima pokušavaju da smanje mogučnost iznenadnog masovnog napada koji im visi nad glavom,ovi radari će biti najvrijedniji u ev.prvom naletu,imaće dosta vremena za pripremu PVO ,dizanje lovačke avijacije..itd,uglavnom ono što možemo vidjeti da Iranci ulažu u sve djelove PVO od cijevne artiljerije,PVO sistema kratkog ,srednjeg i srednje-dugog dometa takodje su cijevnu artiljeriju povezali u SHORAD,ali ono što je najvažnije ulažu ogromna sredstva u radarske sisteme,kupili su dosta kvalitetni Kineski radara takodje iz Rusije i drugih ex.sovjetskih zemalja ali i proizvode sami sve vrste sistema,mislim da su oni naućili dosta iz prethodni sukoba u kojima su Amerikanci učestvovali pogotovo iz bližeg okruženja poslije Izraelskog bombardovanja Sirijskog reaktora poslije kojeg su postavili svoje osmatraćke radare u Siriji,sve ove države imale su PVO sisteme,Sirija je imala u to vrijeme solidan PVO ali to nije sprjećilo Izrael da neopažen prodje,upravo iz ovih razloga Iranci su svatili da im je od strateške važnosti da pored PVO sistema imaju i mrežu razlićitih radarski stanica sastavljenu od velikog broja VOJ,VOSt jedinica koje će pokrivati tzv.sjene a i veći broj radara velikog i srednjeg dometa u VOJIN sistemu stvara hipotetićki situaciju u kojem nikada neće doći u situaciju da su im svi radari ometani, pored ovi stacionarni radara oni večinom proizvode mobilne radare i ovaj prvi koji je vjerovatno AESA je mobilan.



Nekako mi se čini da ovaj radar kada se preklopi podsjeća izgledom na GAMA-DE

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WASHINGTON — After years of efforts, Iran and Syria have found the suppliers to develop an effective asymmetrical military strategy that could overcome Israel's air superiority.

Russia no longer has to supply the most advanced weaponry to Damascus and Teheran. China has been doing this — either indirectly through North Korea or via technology transfer that provides Iran and Syria with copies of effective missiles and air defense systems.

Who within the regime of China's President Hu Jintao is coordinating this secret program is not known, but what matters is the end result.

Iran has supplied advanced long-range radar to the Syrian military as part of a new mobile defense strategy meant to overcome Israel's overwhelming combat air superiority.

Western intelligence sources said Iran supplied what they termed modern radar that could identify and track fixed- and rotary-wing aircraft at a range of up to 150 kilometers. They said the radar, similar to that used in the Russian S-300 air defense battery, marked an Iranian variant of a platform deployed in China's military.

"This is a truck-mounted radar that's quite sophisticated, particularly for Syria," an intelligence source said.

The sources said the new Syrian radar appeared to be part of an Iranian strategy to establish a mobile air defense system that could avoid Israeli air strikes. They said the network, based on a concept called "shoot and scoot," was derived from lessons learned by Damascus and Teheran in wake of the 1982 war in Lebanon, when Israel destroyed virtually all of Syria's Soviet-origin air defense assets.

Syria's new radar was identified as an Iranian variant of the Chinese HT-233 radar, deployed in the HQ-9 air defense system. China has been marketing HQ-9 as both an air and missile defense system to such North African and Middle East states as Algeria, Iran and Turkey.

The Iranian radar was delivered in 2009, the sources said. They said a number of systems arrived in Syria from July to October of last year.

"The Iranians purchased a small number of radars as part of a larger acquisition of air defense systems," another intelligence source said. "They eventually reverse-engineered and copied the elements they were interested in and started producing their own version.

HT-233 was identified as an engagement radar for HQ-9, said to be based on the S-300, and exhibited at a Chinese military parade in 2009. In the standard HQ-9 configuration, the radar, said capable of tracking up to 50 targets simultaneously, has been linked to six four-round launchers and a TWS-312 command post.

Carlo Kopp, a leading defense analyst, deemed HT-233 a derivative of the Russian 30N6E tracking radar, used in the S-300. Kopp said HT-233 has been mounted on a range of vehicles, including 8x8 and 10x10 wheeled chassis.

"It is claimed to be capable of concurrently tracking more than 50 targets," Kopp said in an analysis published in January 2010. "The radar provides target acquisition and tracking within its coverage sector, post launch missile capture, midcourse missile tracking and command link guidance."

The sources said the Iranian variant also contained elements of the Chinese SJ-231 radar. SJ-231 has been regarded as an upgrade of HT-233 and designed to be split among two 6x6 and 8x8 vehicles to withstand enemy air strikes.

"This is a vast improvement over the old Soviet-era stuff the Syrians have," the second intelligence source said.

On June 30, the U.S. newspaper Wall Street Journal reported the Syrian deployment of what was termed a "sophisticated radar system that could threaten Israel's ability to launch a surprise attack against Iran's nuclear facilities." The business daily said the radar was delivered by Iran. The United States has refused to confirm the newspaper report.

In May 2010, Israel reported the Syrian deployment of Scud-class missiles along the border with Lebanon. The administration of President Barack Obama has expressed concern but refused to confirm the report.

Israel has acknowledged the arrival of advanced radar to Syria but officials refused to provide details.

"Iran is engaged in developing Syrian intelligence and aerial detection capabilities, and Iranian representatives are deployed in Syria for that purpose," the Israeli military said in a statement. "Radar assistance is only one means of that cooperation."



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Gama D je u L bandu a onaj radar po svemu u S bandu.
Pogledaću kakav je taj kineski HT-233 ali na prvu ruku svi njihovi dugodometni radari su pljosnati FAR a ne AFAR možda i grešim.
Onaj Iranski nema manji domet od 350 do 400 km sa onakvom antenom.

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I mislio sam samo izgledom,evo HT-233 malo je poznato informacija bar onih zvanični,pretpostavlja se da radi u G-bandu izmedju 5.2 i 5.9GHz

HT-233 PESA




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Ovo sam pronašao na njihovom forumu. Zanimljivo, veoma zanimljivo. Ako su ovo zaista uspjeli uraditi, trebao im je moćan radar za otkriti satelit i nanišaniti laserom...
.....According to a European intelligence source, Iran shocked Western intelligence agencies in a previously unreported incident that took place sometime in the past two years, when it managed to “blind” a CIA spy satellite by “aiming a laser burst quite accurately.”
More recently, Iran was able to hack Google security certificates, says the engineer. In September, the Google accounts of 300,000 Iranians were made accessible by hackers. The targeted company said “circumstantial evidence” pointed to a “state-driven attack” coming from Iran, meant to snoop on users...(zabranjeno)ing the protected GPS coordinates on the Sentinel drone was no more difficult, asserts the engineer. US knew of GPS systems’ vulnerability.....

Evo linka za cijeli tekst:
http://warsclerotic.wordpress.com/2011/12/15/exclu.....nitor-com/

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Sve zemlje koje imaju svemirski program imaju posebno razvijene radare za to,imao sam negdje slike Iranskih svemirski radara,koje u suštini izgledaju kao sat.antene ,postaviću ćim pronadjem,mada u suštini i
radari velikog dometa mogu registrovati niskoleteće špiunske satelite,a ove što koristi CIA za špiuniranje ne lete na velikim visinama,Ghadir po spec. ima domet po visini 310km tako da spada u te koji mogu registrovati satelite koji lete u LEO do 310km,za ove druge nemamo nikakvih podatak pa njih neću ni ubrajati mada bi i ovaj za kojeg je objavljeno da je ušao u naoružanje a ima domet 3000km teoretski trebao imati domet i po visini.

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HT 233 je nišanski a ne osmatrački radar, a tako i SJ.
Iranski radar sa belom AESA antenom je međutim osmatrački.
Možda i čak sa malo manjom daljinom od one koju sam naveo ali svakako 300 do 350 km minimalno.

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Napisano: 27 Dec 2011 19:13

Zato sam i postavio jer mi domet od 150km se nije uklapao vijest o postavljanju osmatrački radara u Siriji,e sad ili ovaj radar isporučen sa još nekim osmatračkim ili je Iranski radar koji je isporučen u stvari neki drugi koji je razvijen na osnovu ovog Kineskog ali po meni nema logike,ovakav radar ide u sklopu S-300 tako...,interesantno je da se jedino u ovom izvještaju pominje tip radara,u svim drugim samo se kaže da je isporučen napredni osmatrački radar.

Dopuna: 27 Dec 2011 20:25

Evo katalog PVO sistema firme Rosoboronexport unutra su svi sistemi od ZU-23 do S-400 sa detaljnim opisom sistema,opis borbenog dejstva ,sve je praćeno sa fotografijama ,na engleskom je.

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Nelsa, ti si ove sličice objavio na jednom od postova.....o kakvom sistemu se ovdje radi?









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Ono iznad liči na tićični asembli sistema Rapria ovaj put u Iranskoj izvedbi. Rekao bih samo da kad bih kupovao Rapiru obavezno bih uzeo Iransku a ne originalnu Britansku.
Nelsa isprvi me ako grešim pa postavi radare Rapire ako sam pogrešio.

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