Poslao: 13 Jul 2009 12:10
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Rusija smanjuje broj tenkova sa 22000 na 2000, to jest, dve brigade i 20 bataljona, plus jos 3-4000 u rezervi. Koliko je od tih 22000 sada aktivno?
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Poslao: 13 Jul 2009 12:47
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- boksi
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Main Battle Tank
* T-90 |~1200| (+ 300 more are modernized T-72s) + more on order. 125 mm main gun, 7.62x54 coax, RC 12.7x108 AA, AT-11 ATGM, Kontakt-5 ERA, Shtora-1 CMS, Arena or Drozd-2 APS
* T-80UM |5,956 According to [1] & [2]| 125 mm main gun, 7.62x54 coax, RC 12.7x108 AA, AT-11 ATGM, Kontakt-5 ERA, Shtora-1 , Drozd-2 APS
Two T-80UD MBTs on Red Square in Moscow during failed Coup d'état attempt, August 1991.
* T-72BM/BV |~9700 According to [3] & [4]| 125 mm main gun, 7.62x54 coax, RC 12.7x108 AA, AT-11 ATGM, Kontakt-5 ERA
* T-64BV |~4300 in reserve, According to GlobalSecurity.org| 125 mm main gun, 7.62x54 coax, RC 12.7x108 AA, AT-8 ATGM, Kontakt-1 ERA
* T-62M1 |~1900 in reserve/storage. 115 mm main gun, 7.62x54 coax, 12.7x109 AA, AT-12 ATGM, Drozd APS, ERA, Cage armor
* T-55 |~1010 in reserve. 100 mm main gun, Cage armor
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_equipment_of_the_Russian_Ground_Forces
Verovatno ove starije tenkove otpisuju....
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Poslao: 13 Jul 2009 13:09
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- sebab
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ma pitanje je koliko je od postojecih upotrebljivo. klasican novinarski senzacionalizam.
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Poslao: 13 Jul 2009 13:13
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stvarno...na kraju ce Irak imati vise tenkova nego Rusi...nesto se cudno dogada u toj Rusiji...razumijem ja ,oni hoce profesionalnu i brzu vojsku,ali opet to je ipak zemlja koja ima 17 miljona km2!!! a na takav teritorij 2000 tenkova mi nije bas mnogo,sve zivo smanjuju...ko zna sta opet planiraju...da sam Rus uvijek bi se drzao one lekcije iz ww2 "NEVER KNOWWWW"
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Poslao: 13 Jul 2009 14:03
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Evo cijeli clanak pa ce vam se samo kazati...nemam vremena da prevodim...
July 12, 2009: Russia is cutting its tank force again, from 22,000 to about 6,000. Sixty percent of these 6,000 will be in storage. The remaining 16,000 tanks will be scrapped. Twenty years ago, the situation was quite different. At the end of the Cold War in 1991, Russia had about 53,000 tanks in service (about 40 percent of them relics from the 1950s, or earlier). Over the last two decades, some 30,000 tanks were scrapped. Back in 1991, about half of the tanks were of questionable serviceability and usefulness, but that still left the Russians with 25,000 modern tanks, ready to roll west. With the collapse of the Soviet Union, 80 percent of the five million troops were sent home, and, in the next decade, only a few hundred new tanks were purchased.
The current tank fleet has about 260 T-90s and 1,200 T-80s (a third in storage). These are roughly equal to early model U.S. M-1s. Most of the current Russian tanks are late model T-72s, some of them upgraded with excellent electronics (fire controls systems and thermal sights).
For the last decade, no matter how many tanks the Russians say they had, only a few thousand are ready to roll, and go into combat. In effect, Russia has lost the use of some 90 percent of its tanks since 1991. Back then, nearly all those 53,000 were assigned to a combat division. OK, most of those were reserve divisions, but if most of the reservists showed up in wartime, they would know how to get most of their tanks operational. That reserve system collapsed along with the Soviet Union, so now, the Russians have faced the fact that they can only get about 5,000 tanks operational on short notice. That's a big drop from the 1980s.
The Russian tank fleet is outnumbered by what NATO has available, and is only slightly larger than China's. As much as Russian commanders dislike this, they have finally faced the facts, and decided to retain only as many tanks as they can actually maintain and operate.
@ Strategy pg.
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Poslao: 13 Jul 2009 14:50
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Ma to je sigurno procurela vest da će da pošalju stare neispravne tenkove na rezanje jer jednostavno im uzimaju ogromne resurse za održavanje i skladištenje.
Mislim da su i Rusi konačno shvatili da je unifikacija opreme dobra stvar i da će tako rešiti gomilu logističkih problema.
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Poslao: 13 Jul 2009 15:07
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Što se tiče broja tenkova, u Evropi danas imamo dve grupe zemalja:
- one koje imaju ispod 500 operativnih tenkova (npr cela zapadna Evropa)
- one koje nisu isekle krševe i otarasile se neispravnih vozila
Očekivan potez Rusije (pitanje je samo šta će raditi sa viškovima vozila, da li će ih prodavati nekom ili praviti konverzije).
Što se tiče samog tenka, još jedan korak bliže penziji...
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Poslao: 13 Jul 2009 15:16
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Wiesel_hr ::stvarno...na kraju ce Irak imati vise tenkova nego Rusi...nesto se cudno dogada u toj Rusiji...razumijem ja ,oni hoce profesionalnu i brzu vojsku,ali opet to je ipak zemlja koja ima 17 miljona km2!!! a na takav teritorij 2000 tenkova mi nije bas mnogo,sve zivo smanjuju...ko zna sta opet planiraju...da sam Rus uvijek bi se drzao one lekcije iz ww2 "NEVER KNOWWWW"
Smanjuju jer u Rusiji korupcija pojede jedan vojni budzet.
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Poslao: 13 Jul 2009 16:37
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Праве места за нешто "комплитли диферент".
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