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Да ли имамо слике свих контејнера?
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Registruj se da bi učestvovao u diskusiji. Registrovanim korisnicima se NE prikazuju reklame unutar poruka.
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Poslao: 28 Maj 2014 08:16
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Imamo na jednoj od stranica ,kasnije su to potraziti .
Evo ukr. MR sa kontejnerom `Spilj-2M`
Ovo je komentar za jednu fotku na sl sajtu
Citat:Su-24MR bort number 09 equipped with two PTB-3000 fuel tanks and a Shpil'-2M pod under the fuselage. All the internal reconnaissance systems are visible on this picture that was taken by a Western Military Liaison Mission: the SLAR, the two windows of the AP-402M camera and the Aist-M TV system under the belly, the A-100 camera under the left air intake and the small fairing of the Zima IR system under the right air intake. Note also one antenna of the SPS-143 jammer under the nose. Contrary to appearances, the two long thin black fairings under the nose near the engine air intakes were not antennas. They were instead high-pressure air blowing ducts protecting the engines against FOD absorption.
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Citat:Welzow's Fencers
The first Su-24MR "Fencer-E" of the 11.ORAP flew their first operational sorties from their Brandenburg base on February 17, 1986. For a few weeks, the regiment's new reconnaissance variants flew alongside the Yak-28R that they were replacing. The last "Brewer-D" indeed left Germany on July 2, 1986. Welzow was left with two squadrons entirely equipped with Su-24MR.
The Su-24MR (MR for Modifikatsirovanyy Razvedchik) was a conventional tactical reconnaissance aircraft whose large size permitted it to carry the BRK-1 embedded reconnaissance complex (Bortovoy Razvedyvatel'nyy Kompleks). The classic infrared and electronic reconnaissance systems of the BKR-1 reconnaissance suite made of the Su-24MR a much more capable reconnaissance platform than its predecessors.
A M-101 Shtik (Bayonet) Side Looking Airborne Radar (SLAR) was located inside its nose. It was possible to scan an area of 4 to 24 kilometers wide on each side alternatively with a resolution of 5 to 7.5 meters. The extension of the white paint behind the nose radome was a ruse to hide the large lateral dielectric panels of the SLAR. An AFA AP-402M rotary prism-equipped panoramic camera with a focal length of 90.5 mm was located under the fuselage right behind the front nose wheel. The Kadr complex included an AFA-A-100 oblique camera with a focal length of 1000 mm mounted under the left reactor air intake. This complex made it possible to jettison the exposed films housed inside a parachute-equipped cassette in flight when necessary; however, we have not been able to find how the cassette was ejected. An Aist-M (Stork) TV reconnaisssance system also found its place inside the fuselage, just behind the AP-402M camera. Finally, the Zima (Winter) IR sensor formed a small fairing that could be found set back under the right engine air intake. A data link was used to transmit the images collected by TV, IR and laser means to a ground station. The aircraft position and the time also were recorded for each pictura taken. The digital data were received and analyzed with the Posrednik (Intermediary) mobile complex mounted on two trucks. Like all the "Fencer," the Su-24MR had on its back a big air scoop feeding a heat exchanger to cool the onboard systems it carried. However, the one of the "Fencer-E" seemed bigger due to its rounded top. The latter in fact housed the antenna of the ShRK-1 large band data link transmitter.
The Su-24MR had no offensive capability: the Orion-A attack radar, the Kayra-24 weapons system and the GSh-6-23M cannon that the "Fencer-D" attack aircraft carried were not mounted. However, the Rel'yef' terrain-following radar was still present. In order to ensure its survival, this variant enjoyed the remarkable Su-24M self-defense suite that included on the late production batches: an SPO-15 Bereza (Birch) radar warning and homing radar receiver, a L-082 Mak-UL (Poppy) IR missile detector, a SPS-161 Geran-F (Geranium) radar jamming system, an SPS-143 ECM complex and APP-50A flare launchers. "Fencer-F" were wired to carry R-60 or R-60M (AA-8 "”Aphid"”) short-range IR air to air missiles under their wings. The 11.ORAP aircraft often were observed with APU-60-2 adapters for two R-60 missiles under the left wing outboard pylon. As part of their mission and in addition to their standard onboard equipment, the Su-24MR from Welzow always carried one or two specialized pods such as the Konteyner n°2 that was a SRS-14 Tangazh (Pitch) ELINT pod mounted under the fuselage or the Konteyner n°1 Shpil'-2M (Spire) designed for laser low-level reconnaissance.
Nesto malo je bilo na
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Poslao: 28 Maj 2014 10:28
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Evo nam malo vise detalja u vezi opreme i sistema izv. varijante MR,izvor je jedan svabski sajt u kojem ima podataka o MR koji su bazirali u 11 ORAP 16 VA VVS u DDR.
Citat:Die SU-24MR wurde ab 1986 vom 11. Selbständigen Aufklärungsgeschwader (11. ORAP) in Welzow geflogen und ersetzte die YAKOVLEV YAK-28R (BREWER D).
Für Aufklärungseinsätze hatten die Maschinen umfangreiche technische Möglichkeiten für:
Funktechnische (Elektronische) Aufklärung (ELINT); RTI/ EL izv.
SLAR; radar za bocno osmatranje
TV-Aufklärung; TV izv.
Infrarotaufklärung; IC izv.
Laseraufklärung; Lasersko izv.
Fotoaufklärung und Foto izv.
zum Feststellen und Messen von Kernstrahlung.
Citat:Die Basisausstattung ist das bordeigene Sytem BKR-1 (установка базового комплекса разведки БКР-1), welches aus zwei Komponenten besteht:
Seitensicht-(Mulltifunktions-)radar (SLAR) "SHTYK" (M-101) (die Ergebnisse werden auf Film aufgezeichnet);
Infrarot-(IR-)Aufklärungssystem "ZIMA".
Zusätzliche Aufklärungstechnik ist entweder ebenfalls fest an Bord installiert oder in abnehmbaren Zusatzbehältern (Pods) untergebracht::
TV-Aufklärungssystem AIST-M (M-152.2)
Panoramakamera AFA AP-402M mit 90,5 mm Objektiv
Schrägbildkamera AFA-100 mit 100 mm Objektiv
Laser-Pod "SHPIL-2M" (M-103A) (unter dem Rumpf);
ELINT pod "TANGAZH" (System SRS-14 bzw. M-321) (unter dem Rumpf);
Pod zur Feststellung und Messung von Kernstrahlung "EFIR-1M" (M-341) (unter dem rechten Schwenkflügel).
Citat:Die SU-24MR hat die Möglichkeit, Aufklärungsergebnisse der TV-, Infrarot-, Laseraufklärung sowie Kernstrahlungsmeßmeßergebnisse per Datenlink mittels dem Breitbandfunkübertragungskanal SHRK-1 an eine Bodenstelle zu übertragen. Um die Aufklärungsdaten zeitlich zuzuordnen zu können, ist an Bord das Zeitsystem "SEVAN" installiert.
Eine spezielle Einrichtung ermöglicht es, nach dem Aufklärungseinsatz Filmmaterial (zumindest der Luftbildkamera A-100) in einer speziellen Kapsel/Kassette "KADR" noch während des Fluges in vorher festgelegten Räumen in ca. 100 m Flughöhe auszustoßen, um dort aufgesammelt zu werden.
Das 11.ORAP praktizierte das Verfahren (vermutl.) im Raum Bronkow / Calau;
siehe Beispiel Flugroute No. 00363 nach einem Aufklärungsflug über der Training Area (Truppenübungsplatz) Zeitz:
Slika koja pojasnjava poziciju pomenute opreme i sistema
Lufthutze auf dem Rumpf für den Wärmetauscher
Blick ins Cockpit (links: Pilot, rechts: WSO)
Citat:Ein interessantes Foto aus dem Cockpit einer SU-24MR mit Details der Anzeige- und Bedienelemente von der Position des Waffensystemoffiziers (WSO)
Citat:Am 15. Juni 1993 wurden die 1. und 2. Staffel mit ihren SU-24MR aus Deutschland abgezogen und nach Marinovka (Мариновка)/RUS verlegt.
Фотографии Самолета- разведчика Су-24мр
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Sa sajta
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zixo ::Да ли имамо слике свих контејнера?
To je sve sto je bilo u VVS ,dakle onaj kontejner na ukr. MR je definitivno nesto novo .Nesto kontam da ono nije izv. kontejner M-400 ?Mada mi nesto i ne lici na njega ???
Citat:The M400 Reconnaissance System features:
Data acquisition, visualization, and storage system
Video data storage system
Raduga high-altitude multi-channel (multi-band) IR reconnaissance system
Antrakt low-altitude electro-optical reconnaissance system
AP-403 and AP-404 panoramic cameras
M402 Pika SLAR plug-in module
AK-108FM long-focus oblique photo camera plug-in module
The Su-30 aircraft equipped with M400 system provides for:
Detection of ground installations and strike confirmation in any weather conditions, day or night, at low, medium and high altitude without entering the range of enemy air defenses using radar, IR and visual sensors
Integrated targeting information acquisition [for attack platforms]
Visualization and on-board logging of reconnaissance data and its real-time transmission to ground station through a high-bandwidth link
Maximum detection range without entering the range of enemy air defenses
Photo reconnaissance - over 70 km
Radar - over 100 km
Sensor resolution
Side-looking radar – 2 meters
Visual sensor – 0.3 meters
IR sensor – 0.3 meters
Long-focus photo camera – 0.4 meters
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Poslao: 28 Maj 2014 10:35
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Мени ипак контејнер на украјинском авиону личи на Тангаж.
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Poslao: 28 Maj 2014 10:38
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Siri je dosta onaj ukr., nekako pljosnatiji od kontejnera `Tangazh`.
Potrazicu na rus i ukr sajtovima ... 
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Poslao: 28 Maj 2014 11:06
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32 naravno MR i 06 je M sa 2 NR S-24.
Ovo takmicenje mozda lici na ono sto je nekadasnje JRV organizovalo krajem 80-tih ?
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