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Napisano: 13 Sep 2016 21:11
Citat:@BoeingDefense T-X uses forward and main landing gear from F-16, and internal equipment from @Saab Gripen fighter, officials say.
https://twitter.com/AirForceMag/status/775725922838319105
Dopuna: 13 Sep 2016 21:20
Citat:Showing off a design featuring twin, canted tails and a shoulder-mounted, anhedral wing, the Boeing/Saab team will compete with a high-powered trainer with a 17,700lb-thrust GE Aviation F404-GE-402 with full afterburner.
The team’s clean sheet design resembles Saab’s compact Gripen fighter and its twin tails allow for more maneuverability at high angle of attack, Darryl Davis, president of Boeing Phantom Works Defense told reporters. In its most recent draft request for proposals, the US Air Force called for 25˚ of high angle of attack.
“Typically, you grow tails extremely large for high angle of attack maneuverability and we chose to take a different path,” he says. “Size relates to cost. The smaller and more compact, the more requirements you’re going to meet and the more affordable is.”
While Boeing focused on meeting the USAF’s requirements to keep costs down, their T-X offering allows for future growth potential, Davis says. That growth plan included the afterburner, which was not a USAF requirement, he says.
Northrop Grumman’s T-X offering, the Model 400, is powered by a single GE Aviation F404-GE-102D engine, FlightGlobal previously reported. However, that version of the F404 will not include an afterburner, limiting the aircraft to 11,000lb-thrust. Among the T-X bidders, Lockheed Martin/Korea Aerospace Industries’ T-50 features the same engine as the Boeing/Saab design, including the afterburner. Raytheon/Alenia, meanwhile, is offering the M346 powered by two Honeywell F124 engines generating 6,200lb-thrust each.
The current configuration of the Boeing T-X provides hardpoints on the center fuselage for a cargo pod, but does not have additional hardpoints on the wings. However, Boeing could grow to two hardpoints per wing plus the centerline point without changing the aircraft’s design.
Those capabilities could leave the door open for a possible aggressor role, though Davis cautioned Boeing is focused on winning the T-X competition first.
“This is all about the trainer,” he says. “If we choose to go down that path, we built something with a lot of growth potential.”
https://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/boeing-.....me-429293/
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Registruj se da bi učestvovao u diskusiji. Registrovanim korisnicima se NE prikazuju reklame unutar poruka.
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Poslao: 13 Sep 2016 21:34
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Mercury ::Postoji li jos neki dvorepi sa jednim motorom? 
F-35 a ovaj Boeing-Saab lice na njega, i kod F-35 ima prilicno prostora oko motora.
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Poslao: 13 Sep 2016 21:51
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Znaci bice KAI/Lokid T-50A vs Boeing/SAAB.
2 na 2, podelite im bojevu municiju pa ko pobedi...
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Poslao: 14 Sep 2016 12:54
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Boeing/SAAB su isli na ispunjavanje zahteva ali nista preko toga, cist trenazer za sto manje para. Sad je pitanje sta ce se vise gledati, performanse ili cena, naravno oba ali USAF je rekao da ce nagradjivati performanse a tesko da ce njihov biti nesto posebno jeftiniji od T-50A ako uopste bude i ne budu tu negde. Mislim SAAB i Boeing i jeftino...
Citat:The Boeing-Saab design, which is powered by a single General Electric F404, is designed to meet the Air Force’s T-X requirements, but not to exceed them, said Boeing Phantom Works president Darryl Davis. The decision to focus on affordability over exceeding requirements comes as a bit of a surprise, as the Air Force in its latest draft request for proposals (RFP) incentivized competitors to submit high-performance aircraft.
“The number one mission is to meet the threshold requirements of the Air Force advanced pilot training,” Davis said after the ceremony. “If you are really going to control cost you have to really drive how do you actually meet all those requirements.”
Citat:A key aspect of the clean-sheet design is the use of Boeing’s closely held manufacturing technology initiative, code-named Black Diamond, which the company hopes will drive down costs. But officials revealed after the rollout that the T-X design goes beyond Black Diamond, with engineers even 3D-printing certain components of the jet.
The Boeing-Saab design has an all-digital, glass cockpit designed to resemble that of the fifth-generation F-35s and F-22s, Davis told reporters. The aircraft also features an open architecture software that pushes data across the jet and its associated ground-based training systems for flexible operation and maintenance
http://aviationweek.com/defense/boeing-saab-roll-out-clean-sheet-t-x-trainer
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Poslao: 14 Sep 2016 13:18
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Šteta što na T-50 ne napraviše DSI usisnike, kao kinezi na Jf-17.
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Poslao: 14 Sep 2016 15:25
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Nije me odusevio Boeig T-X
GROT 2 dizajn ,tj koreni koje vuce jos od YF-17
Mislio sam da Northrop nema sanse sa novim ''T-38''
Ali ako hoce jeftini cisti trenazer poput onog sto je bio T-38 onda imaju sanse sa jeftinim casom leta
Ako hoce avion koji simulira F-35 onda Boeing ima sanse
Ako hoce trenazer koji je i borbeni avion 4 generacije onda je tu T-50
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