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USA vs RUSSIAN RV PVO u zadnjih 30 god

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On 1230 hours, January 19th 1991, Captain Jameel, flying an Iraqi Mig-29 shot down a British Tornado using an R-60MK. The British aircraft was flying at low level in Iraq's western desert. The aircraft belonged to the British 15 squadron and the bodies of both crew were retrieved and returned back to the Coalition by March 1991.




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Zato sto informacije dobijate samo iz zapadnih izvora.

Zvanicno doticni Tornado se vodi kao zrtva PVO.....pomenuti F-18 je isto zvanicno udario u zemlju izbegavajuci raketu.

Izrael ne priznaje gubitak nijednog F-15 a zna se da ih je nekoliko oboreno od strane Sirijaca.....itd...itd



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Oboreni su izmrcvareni Srpski i Iracki Migovi.....kolika ce biti efektivnost protiv protivnika sa relativno modernim ometacima?


Novije verzije AIM-120 sem povecanja dometa imaju znatno povecanu otpornost na ometanje. To isto vazi i za ostale rakete tog tipa. Verovatnoca da ce pogoditi cilje oko 50%.

Necu da nastavljam raspravu jer nije tema o tome. A sto se tice Afrike mislio sam na rat izmedju Etiopije i Eritreje.

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kljift ::Kakav je Mig 35 u odnosu na konkurente iz svoje klase. Mislim u praksi, kad je u pitanju odrzavanje, potrosnja goriva i upotrebna vrijednost.

Bolji. Jednostavno ih razbija cenom a tehnoloski nista ne zaostaje vec je ispred konkurencije.

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trebalo bi otvoriti posebnu temu o razglabanju o raketama..
ko je koga oborio..
gde kada i kako

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USSVoyager ::trebalo bi otvoriti posebnu temu o razglabanju o raketama..
ko je koga oborio..
gde kada i kako


Bilo bi tu mnogo "rekla, kazala".

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USSVoyager ::trebalo bi otvoriti posebnu temu o razglabanju o raketama..
ko je koga oborio..
gde kada i kako


Da da.Trebala bi da se otvori i da se nazove ``Dogfight-i od WW2 pa do danas`` Laughing Izvinjavam se na off-u.

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Taso ::Ratnik ::За ово нисам знао? Shocked

Zato sto informacije dobijate samo iz zapadnih izvora.

Zvanicno doticni Tornado se vodi kao zrtva PVO.....pomenuti F-18 je isto zvanicno udario u zemlju izbegavajuci raketu.

Izrael ne priznaje gubitak nijednog F-15 a zna se da ih je nekoliko oboreno od strane Sirijaca.....itd...itd


A jel ima delova tih F-15? Koliko se secam to je bio sukob iznad Libana.

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Citat:29 July 1981: the Israelis prepared an ambush against the Syrians with a lone F-15A acting as bait, while two more waited hidden behind a mountain awaiting the appearance of Syrian fighters.

Two MiG-21s appeared but did not try to engage the lone Israeli fighter. Despite this, the F-15 is ordered by "ground control"to intercept it.

The F-15 is in fact flying into to a trap, becuase the IDF-AF 'ground control' had been jammed and suplanted by the Syrians.

Suddenly two MiG-25s of the SyAAF 1st Sqdn appeared and a fight follows. The F-15 manages to shot down the MiG in front of him with an Sparrow while the second MiG-25PD Foxbat fired one R-40R Acrid at 18 kms and one R-40M at 11 kms. Both missiles struck the Eagle, forcing (according to the SyAAF) the Israeli pilot to bail out over the Mediterranean Sea. The Israelis accepted the incident and the victory that day but did not admitt any loss.

The next day fishermen found the Israeli pilot’s flat jacket at sea



Izvor je Diego Zampini Database koja vise nije na netu.....on citira Sirijske i Sovjetske izvore i stampu iz tog vremena.

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Citat:29 July 1981: the Israelis prepared an ambush against the Syrians with a lone F-15A acting as bait, while two more waited hidden behind a mountain awaiting the appearance of Syrian fighters.

Two MiG-21s appeared but did not try to engage the lone Israeli fighter. Despite this, the F-15 is ordered by "ground control"to intercept it.

The F-15 is in fact flying into to a trap, becuase the IDF-AF 'ground control' had been jammed and suplanted by the Syrians.

Suddenly two MiG-25s of the SyAAF 1st Sqdn appeared and a fight follows. The F-15 manages to shot down the MiG in front of him with an Sparrow while the second MiG-25PD Foxbat fired one R-40R Acrid at 18 kms and one R-40M at 11 kms. Both missiles struck the Eagle, forcing (according to the SyAAF) the Israeli pilot to bail out over the Mediterranean Sea. The Israelis accepted the incident and the victory that day but did not admitt any loss.

The next day fishermen found the Israeli pilot’s flat jacket at sea



Izvor je Diego Zampini Database koja vise nije na netu.....on citira Sirijske i Sovjetske izvore i stampu iz tog vremena.


Eh bas fino pao u Mediteran. Pa cak i tada bi se nasli neki ostaci F-15. A ispade da je jedino nadjena pilotska jakna Wink

Lazu i jedni i drugi i to dosta. Ameri su lagali kada im je oboren F-18. Obrio ga SAM a kasnije ipak ispade da je to bio Migonja.

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Ирачке победе у рату 1991. године.

http://aces.safarikovi.org/victories/victories-iraq-gulf.war.pdf

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